Gay Marriage: Pro or Anti?

[Free Palestine]

I'm really not "pro" any kind of marriage, but if two people want to do so that's fine and dandy.  Ideally, abolish the state and thus legally binding marriage.

[Free Palestine]

Undecided.

Huh? I remember you cheerleading pretty hard when New York legalized it and bashing North Carolina and krazen after that vote.

As for me, pro obviously.

I'm joking, of course.

Well sh!t son, I thought you were a Moderate Hero for a moment there.

[Free Palestine]

My response to the "oh well pretty soon people can marry donkeys/their sister" fallacy is: so what?

[Free Palestine]

My response to the "oh well pretty soon people can marry donkeys/their sister" fallacy is: so what?

You would not make a good standard-bearer for the cause.

Indeed I won't.

Same with abortion.

[Free Palestine]

Fact:  If you're against gay marriage, you're a bigot.

Fact:  If you're against gay marriage because of your religion, then you're a bigot, your religion is bigoted, and you don't know how to think for yourself.

I'm against gay marriage on religious grounds and I'm nowhere near what you would call a bigot. Even without the religious grounds I would oppose it on scientific and natural law grounds.

Which is dumb.

[Free Palestine]

Fact:  If you're against gay marriage, you're a bigot.

Fact:  If you're against gay marriage because of your religion, then you're a bigot, your religion is bigoted, and you don't know how to think for yourself.

I'm against gay marriage on religious grounds and I'm nowhere near what you would call a bigot. Even without the religious grounds I would oppose it on scientific and natural law grounds.

There's no scientific basis for opposition, and 'natural law' is a religious concept.

Well, there is a scientific basis.  But it's stupid.

From what I understand, the argument is that since same-sex relationships don't produce offspring, they shouldn't be treated the same as opposite-sex relationships.  Because of course, all that matters is producing more little soldiers for the state.