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« on: December 25, 2004, 03:56:45 AM »
Can anyone sponsor this amendment? I took it from Japan's pacifist constitution.

The Armed Forces of Atlasia shall not be mobilised unless necessary to preserve Atlasia's territory or participate in peacekeeping missions.

NO MORE WAR! DISARM NOW!
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2004, 04:00:37 AM »
Terrible idea.
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2004, 04:12:51 AM »
Why don't you sign up for the military? Chicken?
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2004, 04:13:33 AM »
What do you have against it?
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2004, 01:45:45 PM »
Well number one it would not allow us to adiquitly defend ourselves or to be involved in peacekeeping operations. As for going into the military, nobody currently in the Fantasy elections is in the military. You cannot get into the Atlasian military since this is a fake country. As for people being in the US military thats a different story but that shouldn't have any bearing on Atlasia.
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2004, 04:50:25 PM »
Quote from: Franklin D. Roosevelt on December 25, 2004, 03:56:45 AM
Can anyone sponsor this amendment? I took it from Japan's pacifist constitution.

The Armed Forces of Atlasia shall not be mobilised unless necessary to preserve Atlasia's territory or participate in peacekeeping missions.

NO MORE WAR! DISARM NOW!

I'm curious regarding why you say "DISARM NOW!" in light of this proposal, given that we wouldn't have any armed forces to mobilize at all if we did that.
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2004, 05:22:01 PM »
Quote from: Franklin D. Roosevelt on December 25, 2004, 03:56:45 AM
Can anyone sponsor this amendment? I took it from Japan's pacifist constitution.

The Armed Forces of Atlasia shall not be mobilised unless necessary to preserve Atlasia's territory or participate in peacekeeping missions.

NO MORE WAR! DISARM NOW!

What is a peacekeeping mission?  What do you mean by "preserving Atlasia's territory"?  The last two sentences are idiotic.

This may be the worst amendment in the history of Atlasia, and that's saying something.

Btw, this sounds like something that would come out of Charles Lindbergh's mouth, not Franklin Roosevelt's, fwiw.  I would change your name accordingly.
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2004, 05:50:26 PM »
Quote from: Franklin D. Roosevelt on December 25, 2004, 04:12:51 AM
Why don't you sign up for the military? Chicken?

Philip's 16

As for me, I'm 15. 
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2004, 03:03:01 AM »
Well, if you are willing to put a big sign on your front lawn that says:

"Attention Criminals!  This house is pacifist, we will not resist if you attack us!"

maybe one of the Senators will consider it.
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2004, 03:32:59 PM »
Quote from: Franklin D. Roosevelt on December 25, 2004, 03:56:45 AM
Can anyone sponsor this amendment? I took it from Japan's pacifist constitution.

The Armed Forces of Atlasia shall not be mobilised unless necessary to preserve Atlasia's territory or participate in peacekeeping missions.

NO MORE WAR! DISARM NOW!

You're a joke
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2004, 04:13:05 PM »
Not considering how damaging it would be to ourselves, such an amendment would be a slap in the face of peoples all over the world who depend on Atlasia to protect them from harm.
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2004, 08:55:51 PM »
This is exactly why we should not give Anti-War Liberals voting rights!
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2004, 04:48:03 AM »
Quote from: King on December 26, 2004, 08:55:51 PM
This is exactly why we should not give Anti-War Liberals voting rights!

But we should give them to isolationist conservatives. *hint* *hint*
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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2004, 07:16:54 AM »
all people should vote, whether we disagree or not.

I hate that the far-right Family First party won a seat from my state in the senate-and even more so, that One Nation once had two figure support in other states-but that doesnt mean they shouldn't vote.
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2004, 09:31:59 PM »
I love how this proposed amendment would allow us to defend terrority and insert ourselves in any number of "peacekeeping missions" that have nothing to do with our national security, but would not allow us to use military force to protect the lives of our citizens, protect allies, or even respond to attacks on our soil (unless the motive of our attackers was to take some of our territory).

This amendment has nothing to do with a person's views on defense and war.  It's just poorly written.
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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2004, 04:21:25 AM »
How about this: ...in response to hostile attacks by enemy powers. This justifies Afghanistan 2001, WW2 but not Iraq 2003 or Vietnam.
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