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hopper
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« on: August 23, 2015, 10:47:11 PM »

I can't help but wonder if you replace Hillary Clinton with Barack Obama if we'd be in the same situation as we are today. Most of the 63 seats we lost in 2010 were Southern blue dog Democrats. Why? The Democratic Party had committed the unforgivable sin of putting a black man in the White House.

Bill lost just about as many seats in 1994, so I don't see why not.
Bill lost 52 US House Seats just for the record.
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2015, 10:55:36 PM »

I can't help but wonder if you replace Hillary Clinton with Barack Obama if we'd be in the same situation as we are today. Most of the 63 seats we lost in 2010 were Southern blue dog Democrats. Why? The Democratic Party had committed the unforgivable sin of putting a black man in the White House.
Hillary is not as charismatic as Obama and doesn't have the political skills of her husband.

What killed the Dems in 2010 was ObamaCare that had approvals in the 30's or low 40's at best. Obama's approval rating was below 50%(at 46-47%) on Election Day 2010.
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hopper
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2015, 11:29:31 PM »

I can't help but wonder if you replace Hillary Clinton with Barack Obama if we'd be in the same situation as we are today. Most of the 63 seats we lost in 2010 were Southern blue dog Democrats. Why? The Democratic Party had committed the unforgivable sin of putting a black man in the White House.

Bill lost just about as many seats in 1994, so I don't see why not.
The thing is, the South was still somewhat winnable for the Democrats after 1994, right up until 2010. It was when we elected Obama that Alabama, Mississippi, and most notably Arkansas turned completely red overnight, mostly because of the GOP's mass hysteria that the n****r in the White House hates America and the only way America won't disappear off the face of the earth is by voting Republican.
Actually no, Mississippi has a PVI(Partisin Voter Index) in Presidential Elections has ranged from R+8 to R+10 from 1988/1992-2008/2012.

Arkansas-It has been trending Republican for awhile during the 2000's.


Alabama-Had an R PVI of R+7 in 1988/1992 and has an R PVI of R+14 in 2008/2012.
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2015, 12:15:42 PM »

The House is controlled by the R gerrymandering in the Deep South. Whereas at presidential level, and senate elections, dynamics are different, and Latino coalition is much more important in states like CO, NV & Pa where the senate map is a reflection of the presidential map, in 2016.

Term limits are up for GOP give in MI, FL, NV & NM; Dems are expected to win IL & MD in 2018, we will see the R gerrymandering in Deep South in House start to come to an end, by 2022.
MI, WI, OH, and PA aren't in the Deep South. I will give you that VA and NC are in the South but Deep South no? They are Mid-Atlantic Southern States. By the way, the Dems gerrymandered-lite Illinois just like the Republican gerrymandered-lite Michigan.
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