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6. If you lived in Ireland you definetly be a green at least, if not a member of the Socialist party or even Socialist Workers Party (Hahahaha...). Your Irish equivalent would not vote for Labour.

I don't think he would go along with the Greens, but I do agree he wouldn't be a Labour voter either.

7. What's wrong with Ireland?

Dangerous question to ask BRTD, Gully. Probably best avoided.

He believes the Catholic hierarchy control the State and the people and that Protestants are, in general, oppressed.

I'm not sure if there are any states he hates more than Ireland, but I'd say we're at least top 10.

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6. If you lived in Ireland you definetly be a green at least, if not a member of the Socialist party or even Socialist Workers Party (Hahahaha...). Your Irish equivalent would not vote for Labour.

I don't think he would go along with the Greens, but I do agree he wouldn't be a Labour voter either.

7. What's wrong with Ireland?

Dangerous question to ask BRTD, Gully. Probably best avoided.

He believes the Catholic hierarchy control the State and the people and that Protestants are, in general, oppressed.

I'm not sure if there are any states he hates more than Ireland, but I'd say we're at least top 10.

You're right perhaps not the Greens with their desire to enter a coalition with FG-lab. 100% the SWP type.

I'd agree, but for his 'wasted vote' theories. If BRTD was born and brought up here, I'm fairly convinved he would be a Sinn Féiner. Obviously, given his anti-Catholic, pro-Unionist rhetoric this seems very odd to say the least, but pretty much all his other political philosophies can reconsile easily enough with SF. Like I say, this is incumbent on his being born and raised here. In the absence of that and assuming for some reason he suddenly found himself simply transplanted and living here tomorrow, his allegiance and vote would probably depend significantly on the constituency. The Socialist Party would be a distinct possibility where they're reasonably competitive.

As an Irish protestant I certainly do not feel opressed.

Indeed.

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Having already discussed most of your comments before, I'm not going to rehash it all out again. Suffice to say that I echo Colin's posts entirely. But just for the record, to correct a factual error nobody else has dealt with.

Isn't Life of Brian banned in Ireland too?

No, no it's not. It was when it was first released but has been available for viewing for as long as I can recall.

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Since 2003 we have had a new Film Censor and films are rarely banned here anymore - I think only "Spun" was banned out of the films released to the censor since his appointment.

You shouldn't have a Film Censor at all though.

The title of Film Cencor is increasingly a misnomer insofar as the job really entails the certification of films much more than the censoring thereof which is a very rare and increasingly pointless activity (this is the age of the internet after all).

Though, I also think that for all you can try and slam Ireland in this area, it's not as if the U.S. doesn't have it's own issues in this regard. TPTB's attitudes (in the U.S.) to swearing and to things like whats-her-name's 'wardrobe malfunction' at the Superbowl a few years back come to mind.

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Swearing? No one cares about swearing. They show the South Park movie on TV unedited all the time.

The Super Bowl thing, well that was pretty idiotic, but it also happened on a largely watched prime time TV show, not a movie. Moral outrage against movies doesn't happen anymore.

I believe the most fundamental point that myself (and others) have made to you on Ireland is that your image of the country is one of times gone by. When this point is made to you you shrug it off as irrelevant - however when a similar point is made about modern American social norms and mores - you claim the view is outdated and thus irrelevant.

Surely there's a clear and significant inconsistency in your attitudes here (insofar as Ireland's past is what you judge the country by, but you dismiss America's pass with apparant ease)?

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Swearing? No one cares about swearing. They show the South Park movie on TV unedited all the time.

The Super Bowl thing, well that was pretty idiotic, but it also happened on a largely watched prime time TV show, not a movie. Moral outrage against movies doesn't happen anymore.

I believe the most fundamental point that myself (and others) have made to you on Ireland is that your image of the country is one of times gone by. When this point is made to you you shrug it off as irrelevant - however when a similar point is made about modern American social norms and mores - you claim the view is outdated and thus irrelevant.

Surely there's a clear and significant inconsistency in your attitudes here (insofar as Ireland's past is what you judge the country by, but you dismiss America's pass with apparant ease)?

You're charging BRTD with inconsistency? Lol.

Inconcistency, hypocrisy, applying double standards...take your pick...