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« on: November 23, 2011, 02:44:06 AM »

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I knew about the racism, but (for some reason) I thought gays had it (relatively) good in the Motherland.
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2011, 05:53:45 AM »

Lol, you did? That's certainly not true...
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2011, 06:39:58 AM »

I knew about the racism, but (for some reason) I thought gays had it (relatively) good in the Motherland.

A few years ago Russian police and a Neonazi mob cooperated in crushing down the CSD in Moscow.
It produced headlines in Germany because Volker Beck, a homosexual Green party politician and gay right activist was beaten bloody in front of tv cameras:



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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2011, 06:49:29 AM »

Lol, you did? That's certainly not true...
Aye, not sure what I was thinking.  It's too bad we don't have any "Russia STRONG!" posters here to laugh at when they try and defend them.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2011, 08:41:05 AM »

I'm honestly surprised by Russia's and China's stances on LGBT-related issues. You'd think they wouldn't be as discriminatory as some other countries considering there are so many atheists...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_attitudes_toward_homosexuality#Measuring_attitudes_toward_homosexuality

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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2011, 08:44:44 AM »

That's because religious-influenced homophobia isn't the only kind on offer. Ideas of masculinity have often been more important.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2011, 09:03:46 AM »

Ideas of masculinity have often been more important.

Definitely. And one may argue that in societies dominated by industrial labor (like China and Russia are today), this sentiment is still very strong.
I don't think that it is just a coincidence that the situation for homosexuals got better in the Western world at the same time when industrial labour was in decline. Though there are other reasons too, of course.

Besides, outsiders of any kind had a very hard stand in the societies of "real socialism" in general of course. It was probably easier to be a long-haired nonconformist subadult in 1950s West Germany (or Britain, France...) than in 1980s East Germany.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2011, 02:29:24 PM »

Man, Russia and Putin are so cool on the Internet.

Putin is epic and doesn't wear shirts and has guns cool president 101/10
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