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« on: July 14, 2012, 08:06:45 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2012, 11:29:21 PM »

As the article implies, he was a very forward-thinking and moderate mayor. Ever since he lost to Perdue, he's gone hard right; he's embraced virtually everything that the Republican Assembly has passed.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2012, 11:42:49 PM »

As the article implies, he was a very forward-thinking and moderate mayor. Ever since he lost to Perdue, he's gone hard right; he's embraced virtually everything that the Republican Assembly has passed.

And the sad part is that he didn't really have to.  Didn't he already have the nomination sewn up by now?  And overwhelmingly at that?  As well as leading consistently in the polls against Democrats?  Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.  Needlessly.

Well, until last year, it was thought that McCrory could have a primary fight from his right, so thats why he became more conservative. In 2011, the entire NC Republican Congressional delegation signed a letter endorsing him; that effectively scared off any serious primary challengers.

But yeah, going forward, his Achilles heal may be his strong connection to the very unpopular General Assembly.
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2012, 10:56:44 AM »

Well, here is what the UN says about "Agenda 21:"

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"In every area that effects the environment," including farming, the production and use of energy, housing, and, even, the decision to have a child. Agenda 21, itself, specifies a global role for the UN. If Glenn Beck's characterization isn't completely accurate, it is hardly wrong.

Claims that it is "nonbinding" ignores the fact that the UN itself places the implementation of the project on its future agenda.

Whether you think issues such as "the environment," whatever that means, ought to be dealt within each sovereign nation based on the best interests of the people of those respective nations, or addressed by a central global authority depends in large part on your point of view. Dismissing the folks whom take the former position as wearing "tinfoil hats" might very well fit into your point of view, but, it simply isn't an accusation based on any objective fact or reason.

Speaking of tinfoil hats....
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2012, 02:43:14 PM »

Well, here is what the UN says about "Agenda 21:"

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"In every area that effects the environment," including farming, the production and use of energy, housing, and, even, the decision to have a child. Agenda 21, itself, specifies a global role for the UN. If Glenn Beck's characterization isn't completely accurate, it is hardly wrong.

Claims that it is "nonbinding" ignores the fact that the UN itself places the implementation of the project on its future agenda.

Whether you think issues such as "the environment," whatever that means, ought to be dealt within each sovereign nation based on the best interests of the people of those respective nations, or addressed by a central global authority depends in large part on your point of view. Dismissing the folks whom take the former position as wearing "tinfoil hats" might very well fit into your point of view, but, it simply isn't an accusation based on any objective fact or reason.

Speaking of tinfoil hats....

Your spouting the ad hominem fallacy when you claim that anyone whom has the audacity to prefer to implement "environmental policy," whatever that means, at the national level, rather than the international level is wearing a "tinfoil hat."

You are perfectly entitled to advocate a UN role for "environmental policy," whatever that means. I just think it is a very bad idea. That isn't a sign of wearing a "tinfoil hat," whatever that means. That is a distinction that makes a difference that seems to have eluded you.

I'm not spouting anything; I haven't even given an opinion of what I think about this article. All I said was that he was a pragmatic mayor and pointed out that his politics are changing.

My last comment more refers to your body of commentary as whole.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2012, 02:48:25 PM »


Actually following your link it links to the UN Preamble which seems to call for a UN tax upon developed countries that would be transferred to "developing" countries:

"1.4. The developmental and environmental objectives of Agenda 21 will require a substantial flow of new and additional financial resources to developing countries, in order to cover the incremental costs for the actions they have to undertake to deal with global environmental problems and to accelerate sustainable development. Financial resources are also required for strengthening the capacity of international institutions for the implementation of Agenda 21. An indicative order-of-magnitude assessment of costs is included in each of the programme areas. This assessment will need to be examined and refined by the relevant implementing agencies and organizations."

For the record, do you support this goal?

Yeah, I think its well-intentioned legislation.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2012, 02:53:56 PM »

To the extend that he reassesses his political opinions to more conservative one, that is something that I see as a good thing, and you see as a bad thing. People can disagree. Fine. What is totally unreasonable is slurring someone as "donning a tinfoil hat" simply because they have the audacity to move away from your positions.

True; I guess accusing someone of wearing a tinfoil hat is better than insulting their mother, so I guess you're right.
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2012, 03:14:20 PM »

Moving on....
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