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jimrtex
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« on: May 03, 2005, 05:21:19 AM »

First, it is illegal to try to compel someone to say how they voted.

Second, it is unethical.
There have been two recent cases in Texas where voters have been required to indicate who they had voted for, one was in a Democrat primary in 1992, and the other was a state representative race in 2004.
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2005, 01:36:00 AM »

First, it is illegal to try to compel someone to say how they voted.

Second, it is unethical.
There have been two recent cases in Texas where voters have been required to indicate who they had voted for, one was in a Democrat primary in 1992, and the other was a state representative race in 2004.

Check Article VI., Section 6. of th Constitution of the State of Washington.
As I understand it, the persons in question were not qualified electors (under VI.1 and VI.3).  Section 6 only applies to electors.  If the persons in question were not electors, then they are not protected.

In the Texas cases, the voters in question were not eligible to vote in the particular election being contested (one was a Norweigan, though most simply had voted in a district that they were not resident of).  Not all the ineligible voters were able to be contacted.  Ultimately, it was decided that their votes could not be based on a projection of the votes of those who were located.
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2005, 03:25:35 AM »

The situation in Washington is far more complex.
I would not count on that.  Texas House contest there were 13 categories of votes that were either illegal votes, or were legal votes and should have been counted.

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Can these ballots be identified, or the person who cast the vote be determined?   In Texas there were provisional votes without the correct retrieval code.

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That is category 6 in the Texas case.

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Find the person who cast the ballot, or you are out of luck.  I don't see any dead people in the Texas contest, but there was a vote by a Norwegian, and several Nigerian-Americans who had their registration address switched to an adjacent district, where a Nigerian-American was challenging an African-American in a primary contest, and some voters were denied the right to vote.

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Then Rossi has lost.

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Where are the ballots.

If the Washington court adopts the standard used in Texas, then Rossi has lost unless the choice of the illegal voters is determined.  "Might of won" is not going to get a new election.
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2005, 03:35:32 AM »

First, (as I previously noted) how are you going to determine how the dead voted?
I doubt that any dead people voted.  Find who cast the ballot.

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If you are going to discard a vote, you better have very good proof that the vote was illegal.  Right to vote trumps right to get elected.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2005, 02:13:24 AM »
« Edited: May 09, 2005, 02:15:18 AM by jimrtex »

In category one, two names which have been released to the press as deceased long before the November election, but who supposedly cast a ballot in that election are:

John A. Fey (Seattle) died in May of 2004
Joe D. Burk (Seattle) died in May of 2004.

Let's ask them how they voted Tongue
That'll take some digging.
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