Trump jokes about Gianforte assaulting reporter at MT rally

[Inmate Trump]

Why do you guys continue to treat this as news or as if it’s crossing some line? This is the new normal from the rightwing; best get used to it.

True.

It's why I've vowed to never vote for a Republican for any office ever again, right down to the lowliest county commissioner.  No Republican will ever again receive my vote, even those who (currently) denounce Trump.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Why do you guys continue to treat this as news or as if it’s crossing some line? This is the new normal from the rightwing; best get used to it.

Any relevant lines were already crossed long since. But still, Trump's shamelessness at openly endorsing political violence does mean that we are completely justified in responding to the GOP cult's frequent whines to violence from the left with derisive laughter.

That doesn't mean political violence is somehow automatically okay, just that the cult has no grounds whatsoever to be critical of it.

[Person Man]

Why do you guys continue to treat this as news or as if it’s crossing some line? This is the new normal from the rightwing; best get used to it.

Any relevant lines were already crossed long since. But still, Trump's shamelessness at openly endorsing political violence does mean that we are completely justified in responding to the GOP cult's frequent whines to violence from the left with derisive laughter.

That doesn't mean political violence is somehow automatically okay, just that the cult has no grounds whatsoever to be critical of it.

I just hope this doesn't dissolve into some Beirut or Fallujah type situation.

[libertpaulian]

Why do you guys continue to treat this as news or as if it’s crossing some line? This is the new normal from the rightwing; best get used to it.

Any relevant lines were already crossed long since. But still, Trump's shamelessness at openly endorsing political violence does mean that we are completely justified in responding to the GOP cult's frequent whines to violence from the left with derisive laughter.

That doesn't mean political violence is somehow automatically okay, just that the cult has no grounds whatsoever to be critical of it.

I just hope this doesn't dissolve into some Beirut or Fallujah type situation.

Eh, Abu Ghraib was supposed to be Bush's Achilles' Heel, given that it was revealed the summer before the 2004 election.  Look what happened there.

I have no faith in the individual average voter, let alone the collective of American voters.

[Sir Mohamed]

Why do you guys continue to treat this as news or as if it’s crossing some line? This is the new normal from the rightwing; best get used to it.

Because this is not normal. It is neither normal nor acceptable when the President of United States encourages violence against the free press and political opponents, calls the media the enemy of the people, bullies people via Twitter and has a record of telling over 5,000 lies/falsehoods in less than 640 days.

We should never get used to the Trumpian insults and the disgusting human behavior by him and some of his supporters.

[Person Man]

Why do you guys continue to treat this as news or as if it’s crossing some line? This is the new normal from the rightwing; best get used to it.

Because this is not normal. It is neither normal nor acceptable when the President of United States encourages violence against the free press and political opponents, calls the media the enemy of the people, bullies people via Twitter and has a record of telling over 5,000 lies/falsehoods in less than 640 days.

We should never get used to the Trumpian insults and the disgusting human behavior by him and some of his supporters.

One kind of dark thought that I have that is kind of comforting in a way is that though this state of events isn't really sustainable, we can look at the Roman Republic/Principate/Dominate as a case study where norms totally eroded but the system kept chugging along for 600 years.

[Sir Mohamed]

Why do you guys continue to treat this as news or as if it’s crossing some line? This is the new normal from the rightwing; best get used to it.

Because this is not normal. It is neither normal nor acceptable when the President of United States encourages violence against the free press and political opponents, calls the media the enemy of the people, bullies people via Twitter and has a record of telling over 5,000 lies/falsehoods in less than 640 days.

We should never get used to the Trumpian insults and the disgusting human behavior by him and some of his supporters.

One kind of dark thought that I have that is kind of comforting in a way is that though this state of events isn't really sustainable, we can look at the Roman Republic/Principate/Dominate as a case study where norms totally eroded but the system kept chugging along for 600 years.

I'm not sure humankind will survive the next 600 years, to be honest here.

[Person Man]

Why do you guys continue to treat this as news or as if it’s crossing some line? This is the new normal from the rightwing; best get used to it.

Because this is not normal. It is neither normal nor acceptable when the President of United States encourages violence against the free press and political opponents, calls the media the enemy of the people, bullies people via Twitter and has a record of telling over 5,000 lies/falsehoods in less than 640 days.

We should never get used to the Trumpian insults and the disgusting human behavior by him and some of his supporters.

One kind of dark thought that I have that is kind of comforting in a way is that though this state of events isn't really sustainable, we can look at the Roman Republic/Principate/Dominate as a case study where norms totally eroded but the system kept chugging along for 600 years.

I'm not sure humankind will survive the next 600 years, to be honest here.

I don't think EVERYONE will be dead anytime soon...MOST people dead in the next decades or centuries? Sure.  The worst realistic case scenario is that civilization goes on... just not ours and maybe not at our magnitude for another 1000 years or so. Think of a "Dark Age" of steampunk city states. A lot of technology will be lost, but a lot of modern technology will survive. I can see PCs and the civilian internet not being a thing. I can see space travel going extinct. However, I think large supercomputers, radios, TVs, and power from renewables being a thing. Maybe cars would be fully electric or we go back to using steam-powered trains or electric trains.


Well, sure. The Roman Republic took about 400 years to go from a town to dominating the Mediterranean  basin. It then was able to continue to dominate for another 600 years and was still able to stay relevant for another 200 years after that. So, it took roughly as long for the country to die as it was to be more or less built. The United States took about 150 years to go from Independence to a world power. Its been about 100 years since that has happen... so...

[Xing]

I've come a realization, the right is about jokes and having fun and the left is all about being super serious.  No wonder there is no agreement or middle ground.

Yeah, I’m sure that if Hillary cracked a joke about Antifa, the right would roar with laughter.

[Person Man]

I've come a realization, the right is about jokes and having fun and the left is all about being super serious.  No wonder there is no agreement or middle ground.

Yeah, I’m sure that if Hillary cracked a joke about Antifa, the right would roar with laughter.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

I've come a realization, the right is about jokes and having fun and the left is all about being super serious.  No wonder there is no agreement or middle ground.

I mean, look at Kavanaugh.  Hey, he's beer-drinkin' party guy! Can't have that in the SCOTUS.

All the left has to offer is that schoolmarm from Harry Potter, but only if she made claims that she was sexually assaulted to excuse her being the authoritarian she is.

Nah, we like having fun too.

[Hindsight was 2020]

I've come a realization, the right is about jokes and having fun and the left is all about being super serious.  No wonder there is no agreement or middle ground.

I mean, look at Kavanaugh.  Hey, he's beer-drinkin' party guy! Can't have that in the SCOTUS.

All the left has to offer is that schoolmarm from Harry Potter, but only if she made claims that she was sexually assaulted to excuse her being the authoritarian she is.

Yeah sexual assault is just “party guy” stuff. An you wonder why women are leaving the GOP

[Person Man]

I've come a realization, the right is about jokes and having fun and the left is all about being super serious.  No wonder there is no agreement or middle ground.

I mean, look at Kavanaugh.  Hey, he's beer-drinkin' party guy! Can't have that in the SCOTUS.

All the left has to offer is that schoolmarm from Harry Potter, but only if she made claims that she was sexually assaulted to excuse her being the authoritarian she is.

Nah, we like having fun too.

This alone fueled NRA ads for MONTHS.

[emailking]

Well, sure. The Roman Republic took about 400 years to go from a town to dominating the Mediterranean  basin. It then was able to continue to dominate for another 600 years and was still able to stay relevant for another 200 years after that. So, it took roughly as long for the country to die as it was to be more or less built. The United States took about 150 years to go from Independence to a world power. Its been about 100 years since that has happen... so...

I think the lesson there is that we should not assume the US is about to lose its dominance. It could be dominant for a long time. On the other hand, there is good reason to think the US empire may not last hundreds of more years. Resource depeletion will likely be a huge factor. Renewables may not be able to sustain us at our current energy needs. Global warming could play a role as well. It might not be feasible for any country to be a dominant world power in the near future. Or solutions will be found and everything will work out great. We just don't know.

[Mr. Smith]

Trump supporters don't crack their opponents skulls and throw urine at people. Nobody cares about your outrage.

give it time

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

I've come a realization, the right is about jokes and having fun and the left is all about being super serious.  No wonder there is no agreement or middle ground.

So the Right is The Joker after Harly dumped him, and the Left is Batman? Not a bad analogy.


I look forward to putting the GOP back in Arkham.

[Progressive Pessimist]

This whole story is a very disturbing and accurate metaphor about Trump's relationship with the media in general.

[Badger]

Trump supporters don't crack their opponents skulls and throw urine at people. Nobody cares about your outrage.

woah, who is doing that on the left?

You know. A handful of random antifa thugs who vocal hate the Democratic Party and have zero support from the Democratic party in return. It's completely balanced out by the president of the United States and the Millions of Americans who support him actively encouraging violence against political enemies.

This is known as the both sides do it syndrome, or Caltherinaism

[Dr. Arch]

The Left is unhinged.

He said, as he defended a post criticizing the president for supporting a congressman who assaulted a reporter.

[Person Man]

The Left is unhinged.

He said, as he defended a post criticizing the president for supporting a congressman who assaulted a reporter.

This was the wrong thread to post that in. Saying "The Left" is unhinged in a thread about "The Right" praising its members' criminal behavior just takes the cake for being unhinged.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

As said by Sasse the President was joking.

This is the cult's go to defense whenever Trump so brazenly goes beyond the line of civilized behavior that they cannot spin it. It, like the GOP, is no longer credible.

It is transparently obvious that Trump would treat journalists the same way his buddies MBS and Putin do, were he able to.

The illegitimate Trump maladmnistration and its GOP enablers continue to be sickening.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

As said by Sasse the President was joking.

Oh please, the President should NEVER "joke" about assault.

Also, if President Obama did the same thing then I'm sure right wingers would have no problem at all? Yeah right, Republicans and conservatives would be outraged if President Obama did the same thing.

[Person Man]

As said by Sasse the President was joking.

Then what? It was Ambien?

[SteveRogers]

Unfortunately for you, the President was joking and the good people of Montana are reelecting Greg Gianaforte. The President was being jocular with his supporters.

Of course Trump was joking. How is that better? How is it okay for the President to be publicly expressing how hilarious he finds a very real act of violence against a journalist?

[junior chįmp]

As said by Sasse the President was joking.

This is the cult's go to defense whenever Trump so brazenly goes beyond the line of civilized behavior that they cannot spin it. It, like the GOP, is no longer credible.

It is transparently obvious that Trump would treat journalists the same way his buddies MBS and Putin do, were he able to.

The illegitimate Trump maladmnistration and its GOP enablers continue to be sickening.

Lol...and sAsse just excused Trumps rhetoric while in the midst of a booktour for this claptrap: