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« on: July 06, 2005, 04:19:39 PM »

But I'm sure a lot of people would jump to conclusions and call him sexist and anti-working mothers.

If Casey starts ads like that in the SE and it becomes an issue, it will only help Santorum overall. People in this state aren't Santorum haters.

He isn't that well liked.  You have your head wrapped in older polls when their are newer ones out.  Yes I know its not "Quinnipiac" please..
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2005, 04:29:02 PM »

But I'm sure a lot of people would jump to conclusions and call him sexist and anti-working mothers.

If Casey starts ads like that in the SE and it becomes an issue, it will only help Santorum overall. People in this state aren't Santorum haters.

He isn't that well liked.  You have your head wrapped in older polls when their are newer ones out.  Yes I know its not "Quinnipiac" please..

He isn't that well liked? Are you just ignoring the pattern concerning his popularity? What new polls are out besides the SurveryUSA poll? If Santorum is up in the next Quinnipiac poll, will you back down in your argument that he's not well liked?

If he is up in the next poll (other than Rasmussen & Zogby who I have explained before why I don't trust) then yes.  If its Quinnipiac, Survey USA, Gallup or whatever if he is up in the next poll I will give him credit for being a bit more popular (going up to 46 doesn't count).  The only way I on't put much stock into the next Quinnipiac poll is if we have several oother polls that come out around the same time with vastly different results.  Anyway right now we have  2 polls which are MORE RECENT than the poll you cite.  I tend to go by the most recent polls & when a bunch of polls come out within a short period of time take the average of the polls.  You for some reason seem to be so wrapped up in this 2 and a half month old Quinnipiac poll, when we have newer polls that are out that show a different result than the old poll you ignore them, I wonder why.....
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2005, 04:37:44 PM »

.  Anyway right now we have  2 polls which are MORE RECENT than the poll you cite.  I tend to go by the most recent polls & when a bunch of polls come out within a short period of time take the average of the polls.  You for some reason seem to be so wrapped up in this 2 and a half month old Quinnipiac poll, when we have newer polls that are out that show a different result than the old poll you ignore them, I wonder why.....

Two more recent polls? Where? The only one that was noted was the one SurveryUSA poll.

I am "so wrapped up" in the Quinnipiac polls because they are the most accurate polls in the area. There's a reason why almost everyone in PA politics follows Quinnipiac, Smash.

And, once again, you have only presented ONE other poll and the results are as drastically different as you think!

Survey USA did TWO seperate Polls

One in May, one in June.  His approval in May was 44% with a 38% disapproval, it June it was 45% approval 44% disapproval.  He had the 7th lowest approval rating in May & 10th highest disapproval in May, in June he had the 8th lowest approval & the highest disapproval
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2005, 04:41:33 PM »

.  Anyway right now we have  2 polls which are MORE RECENT than the poll you cite.  I tend to go by the most recent polls & when a bunch of polls come out within a short period of time take the average of the polls.  You for some reason seem to be so wrapped up in this 2 and a half month old Quinnipiac poll, when we have newer polls that are out that show a different result than the old poll you ignore them, I wonder why.....

Two more recent polls? Where? The only one that was noted was the one SurveryUSA poll.

I am "so wrapped up" in the Quinnipiac polls because they are the most accurate polls in the area. There's a reason why almost everyone in PA politics follows Quinnipiac, Smash.

And, once again, you have only presented ONE other poll and the results are as drastically different as you think!

Survey USA did TWO seperate Polls

One in May, one in June.  His approval in May was 44% with a 38% disapproval, it June it was 45% approval 44% disapproval.  He had the 7th lowest approval rating in May & 10th highest disapproval in May, in June he had the 8th lowest approval & the highest disapproval

Links, please.

This was posted a few weeks ago, you should have sen it, but maybe you chose to ignore it because others mentioned how bad it was for Santorum.  Anyway it shows the results for both May & June

http://www.surveyusa.com/100USSenatorApprovalRatings061305.htm
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2005, 04:48:05 PM »

but maybe you chose to ignore it because others mentioned how bad it was for Santorum.

http://www.surveyusa.com/100USSenatorApprovalRatings061305.htm

Why would I ask for the links if I am choosing to ignore this? I remember one poll and not the other.

Another question: Why are you so dumb? (That is a serious question, too.)

Meant that you were ignoring it before, when the news first broke about his approval dropping in mid June.  Both Survey USA polls were on the same page, the same links all along.  So if you looked at the links when the story first came out you would have seen both polls since this was the link that was posted in multipile threads on Santorum
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2005, 04:51:56 PM »


Their have been none as far as I know
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2005, 04:55:39 PM »

Interesting stuff.

According to SurveyUSA...

Santorum's approval amongst women is higher than his approval amongst men.

24% of Republicans disapprove of him. Better yet, 26% of conservatives disapprove of him.

Southeastern PA has a 46% disapproval of Santorum but 40% approve. I think a six point difference is too good to be true for Santorum here.

Best part! The T, PA's most conservative area, gave Santorum a 49% approval rating while 42% disapproved!

I'm hesitant towards believing this poll.

Internals tend to even themselves out.  When you go into some of the internals, the sample size is obviously going to be smaller.  His approval is obviously higher in the T, but at the same time its obviously lower in SE PA
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2005, 04:57:35 PM »


Meant that you were ignoring it before, when the news first broke about his approval dropping in mid June.  Both Survey USA polls were on the same page, the same links all along.  So if you looked at the links when the story first came out you would have seen both polls since this was the link that was posted in multipile threads on Santorum

I never noticed the May poll. I've seen the details on the June poll before (see my recent comments on how much of a joke it was). If I was to ignore a poll, why would I ignore the poll that showed my candidate doing better?


As stated above the internals don't mean that much (especially when it comes down to portions of the state)  because the sample sizes tend to be smaller there, but they tend to even themselcves out statewide because of how the poll is put together
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2005, 03:19:07 AM »


I hope so, MoveOn did a pretty good job at delivering PA to Kerry.

Comparing how PA voted in the national election and how it votes in other races is like comparing apples and oranges. Pennsylvanians would easily overlook what MoveOn has to say with Presidential stuff but when it hits closer to home, it'll be a different story.



It could help though.  Casey's populist appeal alone will help him out West even with Moveon.  Moveon could help bring out the Casey vote in SE PA
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