Parliamentary Bicameralism (Discussion Open)

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I support the parliamentary Option one, as this is Parliamentary Bicameralism.

However, I still want something about NCMs for the Prime Minister/government somewhere in the Constitution.

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I support the parliamentary Option one, as this is Parliamentary Bicameralism.

However, I still want something about NCMs for the Prime Minister/government somewhere in the Constitution.

There is a section on dissolution of the parliament and it includes a section on NCMs.

Maybe I misread, but that talks about NCMs on the Speaker, and not the Prime Minister or Government.

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I support the parliamentary Option one, as this is Parliamentary Bicameralism.

However, I still want something about NCMs for the Prime Minister/government somewhere in the Constitution.

There is a section on dissolution of the parliament and it includes a section on NCMs.

Maybe I misread, but that talks about NCMs on the Speaker, and not the Prime Minister or Government.

The Speaker is the PM (just different name) and it states that Congress must dissolve itself with the NCM, thereby removing the Speaker.

Where does that leave my proposed Article 2 on the Prime Minister, then?

I much rather like the name PM if we go parliamentary, instead of "Speaker".

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Parliamentarianism is not a "European" model ROFL.

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"Prime Minister" just seems more appropriate for a parliamentary model, and people have a better understanding of what a PM is and does rather than a "Speaker." Which could mean a great deal of things. I think it makes sense and would be easier for people to "get" the system if we just called the position by the name literally anyone else would call it.

Voila.

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• Option 1 (2 posts up)

[] Option 2 (1 post up)
[] NOTA (no change)

Though I have some rather important issues with it.

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I really like Smid's proposals that he outlined in the universalism thread. I hope we could work out something similar here.

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I make a motion that we vote to reduce the regions to three and rewrite Article I for three regions, not five. We can work out the details of the regions later on.

I say we move on to the next Article and work out the regions at the end. The best idea is to get all the proposals done, vote which one we want, and then work out the miscellaneous issues that may prove contentious. No reason to go through these fights over and over for each proposal.

Ok, just trying to get this active. What is the next Article?

I would like to see someone craft an Article on the Prime Minister and on the President. Although I am somewhat questioning the need for a separate one for the PM. His powers have been outlined in Article I. What would be added by an addition article?

*yawn*

I proposed an article on the PM and President a while ago.

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For the people who did care, the main issue was term limits.

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Aye on my article

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I am willing to take out Section 3.3 if people don't like it for some reason.

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The President has enough power. He makes appointments and can dissolve a branch of parliament. The point is that the GM is a position that should not be left to the decision of one man. The office is subject to abuse and inactivity that requires some method to undo.

Just a question. Did you remove my section of Article III dealing with Presidential powers?

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The President has enough power. He makes appointments and can dissolve a branch of parliament. The point is that the GM is a position that should not be left to the decision of one man. The office is subject to abuse and inactivity that requires some method to undo.

Just a question. Did you remove my section of Article III dealing with Presidential powers?

I removed the Cabinet (as it is now the PMs), the State of the Forum address (that has never been practiced in my experience), and all references to the VP.

I was referring to the Section 3 of my proposed article on the President which is now on the floor.

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The list is good. The only problem is ''largely stolen from the Slovak Constitution''. We should remove it in the final version.

Obviously.

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Aye to both

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President Final Vote Tally
Aye = 8
Nay = 3
Abstain = 1

Court Final Vote Tally
Aye = 13
Nay = 0

Thank you to all those who voted, although I am disappointed by the growing number of delegates that seem to be drifting away from the Convention.

That is because this whole Convention is taking way to long.

This is a Convention to draft a Constitution. In case you didn't know, that's a major task and it's not an easy thing to do.

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Aye/Aye/Nay

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I have a question, in a parliamentary system do all the Senate and house members have to be elected on the same day?

Absolutely not, in France they don't. But usually yes, since that is cheaper and less complicated.

France's Senate is not elected directly.

Countries with both directly elected houses usually do it the same day. Like Australia.

PM/President elected: March, July, Nov

No. The Prime Minister is elected by Congress at the start of every new Congress.

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What comes next? Aren't all relevant articles passed?

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Aye/Abstain