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lfromnj
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« on: January 21, 2021, 06:44:54 PM »

http://gencourt.state.nh.us/bill_status/billText.aspx?sy=2021&id=396&txtFormat=html

What's the odds Georgia tries this?
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2021, 06:49:37 PM »

What’s the chance of the trifecta actually passing this in NH? Is this some random state legislator’s effort, or has it got some party support behind it?
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2021, 06:52:17 PM »

What’s the chance of the trifecta actually passing this in NH? Is this some random state legislator’s effort, or has it got some party support behind it?

I doubt anything becomes of this. Republicans dont have huge majorities in either NH house, and Sununu probably wouldn't go for this either.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2021, 06:54:32 PM »
« Edited: January 21, 2021, 06:57:54 PM by lfromnj »

What’s the chance of the trifecta actually passing this in NH? Is this some random state legislator’s effort, or has it got some party support behind it?

So far its a state senate bill which is much smaller than the 400 person house so it means its atleast going to be taken up. It has 8 cosponsors so far and there are 24 people in the senate. I wouldn't have posted if it was a state house bill.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2021, 08:02:21 PM »

If they do this, Democrats should win as many state house seats as possible and go nuclear in states with trifectas. A bottom up strategy if you will. Screw the senate and presidency, let’s take over as many states as possible. Throw Bloomberg’s dollars into tiny state house races and run top candidates everywhere.
When we have legislatures, Spread misinformation obv, close down precincts in rural areas, and make VBM universal, hold onto those seats until 2030, and then gerrymander Republicans into oblivion.

Anyways, this is further proof all Republicans are traitors no matter how moderate they seem and must be halted for the preservation of our country.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2021, 08:10:14 PM »

Interesting idea.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2021, 08:17:03 PM »

What’s the chance of the trifecta actually passing this in NH? Is this some random state legislator’s effort, or has it got some party support behind it?

The state Senate Majority Leader, Jed Bradley, is a co-sponsor.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2021, 09:02:57 PM »

could pass, not sure if they're really going to push it hard though. They'd need to make NH01 more red, if possible, and not a dummymander.

I actually like this way of allocating votes for a state like NH, although it wouldn't work for a bigger state like CA or one where the house seats and populations don't match up well.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2021, 09:22:49 PM »

Lol this is an awful idea for New Hampshire. Odds are way better that Dems win a district while Rs win statewide than the other way around unless they get quite creative with redistricting. I'm only really worried about this happening in Georgia.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2021, 09:30:20 PM »

Probably would have no real effect if this happens. Republicans should do this in Georgia if they want a state it would really matter in.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2021, 12:40:14 AM »

#MaineRuleGA
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2021, 12:41:30 AM »

If the Rs did this in Georgia I would pack the Supreme Court. Maine should go back to WTA along with Nebraska and we should be done with these games.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2021, 12:45:37 AM »

If Republicans try this in Georgia, I'll take that as a signal they're giving up the state. The ME/NE system makes more sense in small states, whereas GA could seriously backfire unless the GOP has no plan to regain the suburbs and win again statewide.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2021, 08:11:32 AM »

Georgia won't try this, they like being a swing state.

That means millions are pumped every few years and special pork spending

Notice how several republican governors were going on media day and night begging for campaign money and telling all who will hear that there state is a swing state. Even Texas!
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2021, 09:08:29 AM »

I don't see how this would help either party unless they are giving up statewide and want to make one strongly R district.
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2021, 11:03:21 AM »

Maine ruling NH makes sense, but an even more interesting proposal would be to divide the state into 4 districts, where each district gives 1 EV; which I think was done in the 19th century in a couple states?

That way the GOP could easily create 1 Safe R EV and a second tossup EV; instead of maine ruling where they get a Safe D and a Tilt/Lean R district (and the 2 at large ones being rather safe for Democrats)

Also now that I think about it, would the VRA apply to such a system? Because if not, that's an even better system for the GA Republicans, who could probably cut Dems to as little as 3 EVs with no VRA (obviously there would be no VRA districts in NH)
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2021, 11:05:39 AM »

Lol this is an awful idea for New Hampshire. Odds are way better that Dems win a district while Rs win statewide than the other way around unless they get quite creative with redistricting. I'm only really worried about this happening in Georgia.
Or Wisconsin if the GOP wins the governorship.
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2021, 11:06:15 AM »

Can we not?
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2021, 11:24:21 AM »

This isn't really a bad idea for NH or for 2-3 CD states without VRA obligations in general.  Where it becomes grossly inappropriate is in diverse states with large cities. 
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2021, 11:34:02 AM »

#MaineruleOH,IN,KY,TN,AL,MS,LA,MO,IA,KS,OK,UT
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2021, 11:35:56 AM »


This could escalate quickly.  It's theoretically possible to Maine Rule about half of the states by voter initiative. 
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2021, 11:41:40 AM »

Lol this is an awful idea for New Hampshire. Odds are way better that Dems win a district while Rs win statewide than the other way around unless they get quite creative with redistricting. I'm only really worried about this happening in Georgia.
Or Wisconsin if the GOP wins the governorship.

Wisconsin is probably going to be voting to the right of the Tipping Point State in 2024. Doing a Maine rule there mostly helps Democrats by giving 2 EV.  On the other hand Georgia is going to be voting left of the Tipping Point state in 2024 excluding a D landslide at which point it doesn't matter anyway.
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2021, 11:43:05 AM »

I don't see how this would help either party unless they are giving up statewide and want to make one strongly R district.

It doesn't neccesarily mean giving up statewide but rather taking that EV that is clearly to the right of the  Tipping Point state would be advantageous for the GOP. Overall in NH its not that big of a deal considering its only 2 EV and the only type of gerrymanders possible are making both districts equal as possible or one Lean/Likely R and one Safe D.
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