Poll: Who will win Ohio in 04?

[lidaker]

Where's the onesidedness in my statements?

You are saying that the USA supports Israel as they are unaware of the Palestinian situation and talk about Israel's refusal to follow international law, you seem to be ragging on Israel and promoting Palestine with your statement.

Allright, I might have have crossed the line a little bit there, however it's a fact that Israel doesn't care much about what the UN says. And I don't think that the current US administration takes into account the situation in Palestine. People who have visited Palestine and talked with Palestinians tend to have a more balanced view, for example NYT columnist Thomas Friedman.

Well, the UN is controlled by a majority of corrupt dictatures. And sometimes even democratic countries, such as Sweden, fail to stand up against that.

While there's a need for reform in the UN it's not true by any means that it's controlled by corrupt dictatorships. Just as it's not true that the European foreign policy is run by the evil French or that European politicians sees the Chechnya situation the way Berlusconi does. I think you're reacting to some of my views that you consider to be a little bit naive and pro-European, however I think that our positions in fact are quite the same, or at least quite similar.

That's possible...it's easy to get carried away. And, admittedly, I have a tendency to play devil's advocate...controlled is a strong word, yes, but the majority of members are, and some resolutions have been passed that were very odd. European foreign policy isn't run by the evil French, but almost...

On the Chechnya thing you're right, of course...I was just saying...

And yes, I often react to naive and pro-European views somewhat vehemently...but I react just as badly to the opposite radical anti-Europeanism.

I agree. Few things in this world are as irritating as hearing a vänsterpartist talk about the U.S. Or hearing a reactionary republican talk about Europe...

[Gustaf]

Where's the onesidedness in my statements?

You are saying that the USA supports Israel as they are unaware of the Palestinian situation and talk about Israel's refusal to follow international law, you seem to be ragging on Israel and promoting Palestine with your statement.

Allright, I might have have crossed the line a little bit there, however it's a fact that Israel doesn't care much about what the UN says. And I don't think that the current US administration takes into account the situation in Palestine. People who have visited Palestine and talked with Palestinians tend to have a more balanced view, for example NYT columnist Thomas Friedman.

Well, the UN is controlled by a majority of corrupt dictatures. And sometimes even democratic countries, such as Sweden, fail to stand up against that.

While there's a need for reform in the UN it's not true by any means that it's controlled by corrupt dictatorships. Just as it's not true that the European foreign policy is run by the evil French or that European politicians sees the Chechnya situation the way Berlusconi does. I think you're reacting to some of my views that you consider to be a little bit naive and pro-European, however I think that our positions in fact are quite the same, or at least quite similar.

That's possible...it's easy to get carried away. And, admittedly, I have a tendency to play devil's advocate...controlled is a strong word, yes, but the majority of members are, and some resolutions have been passed that were very odd. European foreign policy isn't run by the evil French, but almost...

On the Chechnya thing you're right, of course...I was just saying...

And yes, I often react to naive and pro-European views somewhat vehemently...but I react just as badly to the opposite radical anti-Europeanism.

I agree. Few things in this world are as irritating as hearing a vänsterpartist talk about the U.S. Or hearing a reactionary republican talk about Europe...

Exactly.

[ian]

I said Kerry & I don't think that it will be as close as people predict.  I think it will be a 5% lead on Bush.

[© tweed]

I said Kerry & I don't think that it will be as close as people predict.  I think it will be a 5% lead on Bush.

But you think Kerry will win everywhere...including Arkansas,

[heartscreamer]

BUSH

[ian]

I said Kerry & I don't think that it will be as close as people predict.  I think it will be a 5% lead on Bush.

But you think Kerry will win everywhere...including Arkansas,

Semi-true.  I'm an optimist!    Look @ my map.  Bush won a lot of states on my map, just not OH or AR.

[© tweed]

I have decided to bump this up, after our new poll showing Bush down 7.

[Storebought]

If Kerry does win OH, it will be by a large plurality, say 49% to 40%. Kerry will not win a majority.

[© tweed]

If Kerry does win OH, it will be by a large plurality, say 49% to 40%. Kerry will not win a majority.

Who gets the other 11%?

I could see Kerry wining Ohio 52-47% or so.

[klrbzzz]

Kerry will win Ohio, but it will be very close.

[Rococo4]

Bush will still win.......there is no way that poll is right.  Kerry may be up slightly here, but not by that much.  I have said it before and I will say it again - Kerry is too liberal to win the southern part of the state.  Bush will carry Ohio.

[© tweed]

Kerry is too liberal to win the southern part of the state.

He may not have to

[classical liberal]

If there is enough turnout in the northeast and eastern part of the state, the southern part of the state may become irrelevent.  Plus the city of Cincinnati itself might swing away from Bush, which would almost balance out the GOP enduring strength in the suburbs.

[klrbzzz]

Bush will have another strong showing in the Cincinnati area, but it will be a different story in Toledo, Cleveland, Canton, Columbus, etc.

[classical liberal]

The area yes, but within the city limits?  I think that Kerry will win within the city limits of 95% of cities taking up 1+ CD's (Chicago, LA, NYC, DC, Philly, Boston, Cincinnati, Cleveland, ATL, Detroit, Vegas, SF, etc).  Bush will win 95% of the places that are refered to as cities but don't take up an entire CD (Carson City, Billings, Lincoln, Mobile, Athens, Harrisburgh, Fort Wayne, etc).  We'll see who wins the suburbs.

[ilikeverin]

Fort Wayne

*worships RightWingNut*

You mentioned my hometown!





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