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[brucejoel99]

South Carolina-06: Jim Clyburn

Majority Whip-elect?

[brucejoel99]

South Carolina-06: Jim Clyburn

Majority Whip-elect?

Jim Clyburn has retired from the leadership. Steny is the Whip, Rosa DeLauro is the Majority Leader.

So Steny took a demotion, then?

[brucejoel99]

South Carolina-06: Jim Clyburn

Majority Whip-elect?

Jim Clyburn has retired from the leadership. Steny is the Whip, Rosa DeLauro is the Majority Leader.

So Steny took a demotion, then?

Yup. It's fairly well established that he and Pelosi don't get along. Steyn won't run for reelection in 2020, either.

But wouldn't it be up to the House Democrats, & not Pelosi, to choose to (or not to) keep on Hoyer as Majority Leader/the No. 2 position? After all, Hoyer's been No. 2 of the Democratic leadership team since 2003. Even if he was challenged, wouldn't he, like Pelosi last year, have enough of a support-base in the caucus to be considered a shoo-in for reelection as No. 2?

Not to mention, Pelosi's disregard for Hoyer has been the catalyst for a challenge against him before, too... & it failed badly. In 2006, after Democrats took control of the House & Pelosi was boosted to Speaker, she backed John Murtha of PA for the No. 2 spot, despite Hoyer's candidacy for the job. Hoyer beat Murtha 149 to 86, showing that House Democrats (though it may have been over 10 years ago) can & will rebuke Pelosi re: leadership positions over strong opposition from her.

Really sorry for getting super technical on such a small issue like this, especially something that took place 2 pages ago. I'm just really curious as to how it's going down, is all lol

[brucejoel99]

South Carolina-06: Jim Clyburn

Majority Whip-elect?

Jim Clyburn has retired from the leadership. Steny is the Whip, Rosa DeLauro is the Majority Leader.

So Steny took a demotion, then?

Yup. It's fairly well established that he and Pelosi don't get along. Steyn won't run for reelection in 2020, either.

But wouldn't it be up to the House Democrats, & not Pelosi, to choose to (or not to) keep on Hoyer as Majority Leader/the No. 2 position? After all, Hoyer's been No. 2 of the Democratic leadership team since 2003. Even if he was challenged, wouldn't he, like Pelosi last year, have enough of a support-base in the caucus to be considered a shoo-in for reelection as No. 2?

Not to mention, Pelosi's disregard for Hoyer has been the catalyst for a challenge against him before, too... & it failed badly. In 2006, after Democrats took control of the House & Pelosi was boosted to Speaker, she backed John Murtha of PA for the No. 2 spot, despite Hoyer's candidacy for the job. Hoyer beat Murtha 149 to 86, showing that House Democrats (though it may have been over 10 years ago) can & will rebuke Pelosi re: leadership positions over strong opposition from her.

Really sorry for getting super technical on such a small issue like this, especially something that took place 2 pages ago. I'm just really curious as to how it's going down, is all lol

Okay, so:

DeLauro got the backing of Pelosi loyalists and the Berniecrats elected to the House in 2018, because she also got Keith Ellison's endorsement. That, coupled with a persistent rumor about his desire to retire after 2020 or 2022, led to his narrow defeat for Majority Leader.

Ok, I gotcha now lol, thanks so much for the detailed explainer!!