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« on: October 11, 2012, 02:38:57 PM »

What would the map look like on election day if it was a match between Jill Stein and Gary Johnson?
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2012, 04:52:28 PM »
« Edited: October 11, 2012, 04:57:24 PM by Shadowlord88 »



Stein: 294
Johnson 244

Note: When I added an extra independent candidate to the electoral calculator, it didn't add it for Nebraska Districts, which is why Nebraska isn't colored.  Just pretend Nebraska is colored yellow for Johnson. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2012, 05:00:45 PM »

Johnson landslide.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2012, 05:09:37 PM »

It's hard to predict because they're both very liberal on social issues, so this is mostly an economic/environmental map.



Jill Stein (Green) - 298 EV
Gary Johnson (Libertarian) - 240 EV
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2012, 05:17:56 PM »
« Edited: October 11, 2012, 05:21:55 PM by Shadowlord88 »

It's hard to predict because they're both very liberal on social issues, so this is mostly an economic/environmental map.

True.  A world where Stein and Johnson are the top two candidates would have to be a world where social conservatism has been largely rejected by America.  This makes it a little tricky to guess.  The more I think about it, I think your map is probably better then mine in that regard. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2012, 05:32:41 PM »
« Edited: October 11, 2012, 05:34:19 PM by Thomas D »




Stein: 294
Johnson 244

Note: When I added an extra independent candidate to the electoral calculator, it didn't add it for Nebraska Districts, which is why Nebraska isn't colored.  Just pretend Nebraska is colored yellow for Johnson.  

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2012, 05:32:58 PM »

It's hard to predict because they're both very liberal on social issues, so this is mostly an economic/environmental map.

True.  A world where Stein and Johnson are the top two candidates would have to be a world where social conservatism has been largely rejected by America.  This makes it a little tricky to guess.  The more I think about it, I think your map is probably better then mine in that regard. 

I would imagine that social conservatives would reluctantly get behind Johnson because he believes that many social issues are state, not federal, issues. IIRC he wants to allow states to ban abortion if they so choose.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2012, 09:48:07 PM »

Yeah, Johnson would totally lose New Mexico.  [facepalm]
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2012, 10:05:08 PM »



This is the most optimistic map I have for Jill Stein.

Gary Johnson - 297
Jill Stein - 241
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2012, 11:21:54 PM »



Johnson 406
Stein 132

Although I'd vote Stein.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2012, 11:42:31 PM »

Given that polls indicate that more points move from Obama to Johnson when he's included, I think its safe to assume that he would have more appeal among both R and D supporters.  Giving Stein some credit for mobilizing Bernie Sanders voters, the relatively high share of Green votes in ME-1, and her home state:

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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2012, 05:10:59 AM »
« Edited: October 12, 2012, 05:13:51 AM by Shadowlord88 »

Yeah, Johnson would totally lose New Mexico.  [facepalm]

*Slaps himself*  You're right.  I think was extrapolating the Greens and Libertarians a little too much onto the Democratics and Republicans without really thinking about their differences and the candidates themselves.  Here's a new map. 



Stein: 247
Johnson 291
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2012, 05:23:30 AM »


Why is Montana in some kinda 40% shade? They're the most libertarian state in the nation (acc'd to Cato).
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2012, 05:38:42 AM »

Why is Montana in some kinda 40% shade? They're the most libertarian state in the nation (acc'd to Cato).

Because I used the 2012 map and didn't go through and change all the percentages. Embarrassed
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2012, 06:21:05 PM »



Johnson by a lot.
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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2012, 12:15:44 PM »

Johnson easily. Johnson would take all the Republican states and a good portion of the Democrat states. And I can honestly see a good portion of social conservatism dying out in the US quite soon. More and more Republicans are in all reality becoming libertarians.
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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2012, 12:29:05 PM »


This. Probably could take more...flip CT and MD
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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2012, 02:47:04 PM »



After looking at the 2008 results, I found that the Libertarians out-polled the Greens in just about every state.  Therefore, how well Jill Stein could do is based largely on how much of the Democratic vote she could get.  That leaves her main strength in the socially liberal urban centers.  I concur that Gary Johnson would capture most of the socially conservative vote based on the fact that he would probably allow those issues to be decided at the state level, which is infinitely preferable to the Green party's stance from the conservative viewpoint.

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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2012, 04:10:31 PM »

Johnson, easily.
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