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« on: February 03, 2010, 11:54:29 AM »

What if the runner-up in the primaries got the nod instead of the winner? I think this would be fun. You pick the VP's.
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 06:11:43 PM »

Okay... I'll try my best...

1940: Taft vs. Farley
1944: Roosevelt vs. Bricker
1948: Stassen vs. Russell
1952: Taft vs. Kefauver
1960: Rockefeller vs. Johnson
1964: Johnson vs. Rockefeller
1968: Reagan vs. McCarthy
1972: Humphrey vs. Ashbrook
1976: Udall vs. Reagan
1980: Bush vs. Kennedy
1984: Hart vs. Stassen
1988: Dole vs. Jackson
1992: Brown vs. Buchanan
1996: Buchanan vs. LaRouche
2000: McCain vs. Bradley
2004: Edwards vs. Kerry
2008: Clinton vs. Romney
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 08:32:30 PM »


Huh
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2010, 12:01:50 PM »
« Edited: February 05, 2010, 12:06:28 PM by Dallasfan65 »

anyone wanna do some maps? Wink

1960: Rockefeller versus Johnson


Narrow Rockefeller win.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2010, 12:22:45 PM »

anyone wanna do some maps? Wink

1960: Rockefeller versus Johnson


Narrow Rockefeller win.

I don't think Johnson would win MA in this scenario.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 12:24:20 PM »

anyone wanna do some maps? Wink

1960: Rockefeller versus Johnson


Narrow Rockefeller win.

I don't think Johnson would win MA in this scenario.

Kennedy coattails?
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2010, 12:33:33 PM »

1940: Taft vs. Farley (I vote Taft)
1944: Roosevelt vs. Bricker (I vote Roosevelt)
1948: Stassen vs. Russell (I vote Stassen)
1952: Taft vs. Kefauver (I vote Taft)
1960: Rockefeller vs. Johnson (I vote Rockefeller)
1964: Johnson vs. Rockefeller (I vote Rockefeller)
1968: Reagan vs. McCarthy (I vote McCarthy)
1972: Humphrey vs. Ashbrook (I vote Humphery)
1976: Udall vs. Reagan (I vote Reagan)
1980: Bush vs. Kennedy (I vote Bush)
1984: Hart vs. Stassen (I vote Hart)
1988: Dole vs. Jackson (I vote Dole)
1992: Brown vs. Buchanan (I vote Brown)
1996: Buchanan vs. LaRouche (I vote Buchanan... help me please)
2000: McCain vs. Bradley (I vote McCain)
2004: Edwards vs. Chafee (I vote Chafee)
2008: Clinton vs. Romney (I vote Romney)
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2010, 12:44:18 PM »

Romney was not the runner-up in 2008.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2010, 12:48:57 PM »


He obviously was.

McCain- 9,840,746   
Romney- 4,525,036
Huckabee- 4,179,514   

Then again, you are an ignorant hack, so it's to be expected.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2010, 12:49:58 PM »

anyone wanna do some maps? Wink

1960: Rockefeller versus Johnson


Narrow Rockefeller win.

I don't think Johnson would win MA in this scenario.

Kennedy coattails?

This is an alternate scenario for 1960, there wouldn't be any Kennedy coattails for Johnson to ride on, not to mention I can't imagine a southern Democrat playing to well in Mass. in 1960 regardless of whose coattails they're riding on.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2010, 01:11:33 PM »
« Edited: February 05, 2010, 01:14:52 PM by Mideast Assemblyman True Conservative »


He obviously was.

McCain- 9,840,746   
Romney- 4,525,036
Huckabee- 4,179,514   

Then again, you are an ignorant hack, so it's to be expected.

Oh yes, stupid me, it's the popular votes that count! Just ask Al Gore.

No, you're the ignorant hack. You don't realize that, like in the general election, it's not the popular votes that count, and in the case of the primaries, it's the delegates. Romney finished last in those 3, both in pledged and in estimated total delegates. Out of those 3, Romney was the first to drop out, too.
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2010, 01:19:13 PM »


He obviously was.

McCain- 9,840,746   
Romney- 4,525,036
Huckabee- 4,179,514   

Then again, you are an ignorant hack, so it's to be expected.

Oh yes, stupid me, it's the popular votes that count! Just ask Al Gore.

No, you're the ignorant hack. You don't realize that, like in the general election, it's not the popular votes that count, and in the case of the primaries, it's the delegates. Romney finished last in those 3, both in pledged and in estimated total delegates. Out of those 3, Romney was the first to drop out, too.

No, it's nothing like a general election because it isn't held all at one time. So that argument doesn't work at all. And like you said, Romney dropped out way earlier. He STILL got more votes. How sad. More Republicans wanted Romney than Huckabee. I don't know how much simpler it can get.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2010, 01:22:10 PM »


He obviously was.

McCain- 9,840,746   
Romney- 4,525,036
Huckabee- 4,179,514   

Then again, you are an ignorant hack, so it's to be expected.

Oh yes, stupid me, it's the popular votes that count! Just ask Al Gore.

No, you're the ignorant hack. You don't realize that, like in the general election, it's not the popular votes that count, and in the case of the primaries, it's the delegates. Romney finished last in those 3, both in pledged and in estimated total delegates. Out of those 3, Romney was the first to drop out, too.

No, it's nothing like a general election because it isn't held all at one time. So that argument doesn't work at all. And like you said, Romney dropped out way earlier. He STILL got more votes. How sad. More Republicans wanted Romney than Huckabee. I don't know how much simpler it can get.

So? I wasn't saying that a primary and a general are the same thing. But it is like a general election in that the popular votes aren't the deciding factor, which is what I did say.
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2010, 01:25:51 PM »

anyone wanna do some maps? Wink

1960: Rockefeller versus Johnson


Narrow Rockefeller win.

I don't think Johnson would win MA in this scenario.

Kennedy coattails?

This is an alternate scenario for 1960, there wouldn't be any Kennedy coattails for Johnson to ride on, not to mention I can't imagine a southern Democrat playing to well in Mass. in 1960 regardless of whose coattails they're riding on.
Yeah, MA was kindof a tossup. I wasn't sure.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2010, 01:27:31 PM »


He obviously was.

McCain- 9,840,746   
Romney- 4,525,036
Huckabee- 4,179,514   

Then again, you are an ignorant hack, so it's to be expected.

Oh yes, stupid me, it's the popular votes that count! Just ask Al Gore.

No, you're the ignorant hack. You don't realize that, like in the general election, it's not the popular votes that count, and in the case of the primaries, it's the delegates. Romney finished last in those 3, both in pledged and in estimated total delegates. Out of those 3, Romney was the first to drop out, too.

No, it's nothing like a general election because it isn't held all at one time. So that argument doesn't work at all. And like you said, Romney dropped out way earlier. He STILL got more votes. How sad. More Republicans wanted Romney than Huckabee. I don't know how much simpler it can get.

So? I wasn't saying that a primary and a general are the same thing. But it is like a general election in that the popular votes aren't the deciding factor, which is what I did say.

And if Romney stayed in as long as Huckabee, everyone knows he'd have had more delegates.  The delegates are disputable anyways.
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2010, 01:34:07 PM »


He obviously was.

McCain- 9,840,746   
Romney- 4,525,036
Huckabee- 4,179,514   

Then again, you are an ignorant hack, so it's to be expected.

Oh yes, stupid me, it's the popular votes that count! Just ask Al Gore.

No, you're the ignorant hack. You don't realize that, like in the general election, it's not the popular votes that count, and in the case of the primaries, it's the delegates. Romney finished last in those 3, both in pledged and in estimated total delegates. Out of those 3, Romney was the first to drop out, too.

No, it's nothing like a general election because it isn't held all at one time. So that argument doesn't work at all. And like you said, Romney dropped out way earlier. He STILL got more votes. How sad. More Republicans wanted Romney than Huckabee. I don't know how much simpler it can get.

So? I wasn't saying that a primary and a general are the same thing. But it is like a general election in that the popular votes aren't the deciding factor, which is what I did say.

And if Romney stayed in as long as Huckabee, everyone knows he'd have had more delegates.  The delegates are disputable anyways.

That's not what this thread is about. We're not talking what "would have" happened, this thread is about the #2 primary candidates according to the actual primary results. And what makes you so certain Romney would have more delegates anyway?

And no, the delegates are not disputable. You can go to pretty much any page with the final results (including this one, on the Atlas itself) and see for yourself who finished in second place.
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2010, 01:34:50 PM »


He obviously was.

McCain- 9,840,746   
Romney- 4,525,036
Huckabee- 4,179,514   

Then again, you are an ignorant hack, so it's to be expected.

Oh yes, stupid me, it's the popular votes that count! Just ask Al Gore.

No, you're the ignorant hack. You don't realize that, like in the general election, it's not the popular votes that count, and in the case of the primaries, it's the delegates. Romney finished last in those 3, both in pledged and in estimated total delegates. Out of those 3, Romney was the first to drop out, too.

No, it's nothing like a general election because it isn't held all at one time. So that argument doesn't work at all. And like you said, Romney dropped out way earlier. He STILL got more votes. How sad. More Republicans wanted Romney than Huckabee. I don't know how much simpler it can get.

So? I wasn't saying that a primary and a general are the same thing. But it is like a general election in that the popular votes aren't the deciding factor, which is what I did say.

And if Romney stayed in as long as Huckabee, everyone knows he'd have had more delegates.  The delegates are disputable anyways.

That's not what this thread is about. We're not talking what "would have" happened, this thread is about the #2 primary candidates according to the actual primary results. And what makes you so certain Romney would have more delegates anyway?

And no, the delegates are not disputable. You can go to pretty much any page with the final results (including this one, on the Atlas itself) and see for yourself who finished in second place.

I already showed you who received the second most votes. Delegates are irrelevant unless you actually have a majority.
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2010, 08:15:33 PM »

1964: George Wallace finished second to LBJ

How does that look?

1964:
Wallace vs Rockefeller

I think the 1964 map in reverse
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2010, 11:13:00 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2010, 12:09:37 AM »


Clinton had no inter-party completion. Much like Stassen finishing second in 1984
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2010, 12:12:22 AM »

Much like Stassen finishing second in 1984

LIER, Unpledged got second.
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