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SteveRogers
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« on: March 25, 2015, 08:12:11 PM »

While the answer is obviously yes, he isn't by the standards of many birthers, thus creating a bit of a conundrum.

For each individual birther it will depend on which tendency dominates when it comes to their view of Ted Cruz: Racism and xenophobia or hyperpartisanship. I imagine Cruz seems white enough to most birthers.   It's not like birhters are the most logical people to begin with. I'm sure they'll come up with some convoluted nonsense explanation for why Cruz is a natural born citizen but Obama still isn't. 
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SteveRogers
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2015, 12:08:11 AM »

While the answer is obviously yes, he isn't by the standards of many birthers, thus creating a bit of a conundrum.

No he's born in Canada

So?
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SteveRogers
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2015, 05:27:43 PM »

While the answer is obviously yes, he isn't by the standards of many birthers, thus creating a bit of a conundrum.
No he's born in Canada
He was born in Canada to an American citizen mother, which makes him a natural-born US citizen. If Obama had been born in Kenya, he would also still be eligible for the same reason.
Not true.  The American-citizen parent must have lived in the United States for at least 5 years after the age of 14.  Obama's mother had not qualified to transmit citizenship to her children.

Source please.

8 USC 1401(g).  At the time Obama was born, for a child born abroad with one alien parent and one citizen parent to be a citizen, the citizen parent had to have resided 10 years in the US with at least 5 years after the age of 14. In 1986, the law was amended to make those limits 5 and 2 respectively, but even assuming that change would have granted him citizenship it wouldn't made him a natural-born citizen as he wouldn't have been a citizen from birth.  Since his mother was only 18 when Obama was born, it would have been impossible for her to meet the 5 year requirement had she given birth abroad.

So the birthers weren't entirely insane, only mostly insane because even after proof he'd be been born in Hawaii was submitted, they refused to believe it and continued to insist he'd been born in Kenya, which if true would have debarred Barack from the presidency.

Of course the hardcore birthers don't care about any of that. They think that even if you're a citizen at birth under federal law, and even if you're born in the U.S. And thus a citizen at birth under the 14th Amendment, you're still not a "natural born citizen" as meant in Article II. Their reasons are of course too dumb to go into here.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2016, 01:18:15 PM »

Yes he is. His mother is a US citizen, so therefore he to is a US citizen. It's rather ironic that he supports amending the 14th amendment to do away with birthright citizenship, which would render him a Canuck for life.

Well, no, in Cruz's case the 14th Amenfment doesn't apply because he was born in Canada. The 14th Amendment only grants birthright citizenship to those born in the United States. But while the 14th Amendment guarantees birthright citizenship to those people and removes from congress the power to deny them citizenship, it is by no means the exclusive means of obtaining birthright citizenship. Cruz obtained birthright citizenship under federal law because his mother was a U.S. citizen and met the statutory age and residency requirements at the time Cruz was born.
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