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« on: October 20, 2022, 10:35:08 PM »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/italy-rising-coalition-dealt-blow-085126862.html

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I intend to lead a government with a clear and unambiguous foreign policy line. Italy is fully, and proudly, part of Europe and of NATO,” Meloni, leader of the Brothers of Italy party, said in a statement Wednesday afternoon. “Anyone who does not agree with this cornerstone will not be able to be part of the government, even at the cost of not forming a government.”

Meloni’s remarks come after audio surfaced of coalition partner Silvio Berlusconi, who leads the center-right Forza Italia party, saying he rekindled his friendship with Russian President Vladimir Putin and laying the blame of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2022, 11:12:33 PM »

Economic suicide it is then
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2022, 11:15:43 PM »

Meloni is taking a risk here, yeah. Remains to be seen if it will be to her personal benefit.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2022, 11:36:11 PM »


And I thought that Berlusconism with Communist characteristics was a thing only in mid-90s Milan.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2022, 10:51:05 AM »


What difference would including the Bunga Bunga man make to the economy?
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2022, 11:00:47 AM »

So it's early elections then?
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2022, 11:16:04 AM »


What difference would including the Bunga Bunga man make to the economy?

PSOL's post here is best interpreted not as a positive statement about Berlusconi, or indeed as a statement of any kind about European affairs, but as a negative statement about the United States.
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2022, 11:20:01 AM »


Liz Truss made a great effort, but Italy will not stand being outdone in Western European political dysfunction.
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2022, 11:43:30 AM »


What difference would including the Bunga Bunga man make to the economy?

PSOL's post here is best interpreted not as a positive statement about Berlusconi, or indeed as a statement of any kind about European affairs, but as a negative statement about the United States.
Moreso it is a definite descriptor that fascism cannot survive without expansion, and that Italy is in no place to practice self-colonization any more than it has. The US sees no interest in Italy expanding, and without cheap gas from Russia, collapse is inevitable.
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2022, 12:12:48 PM »

I mean, I hope she does it. I guess that's part of the old school Fascism that really doesn't like Russians.
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2022, 01:42:47 PM »

Well good for her, but you always know that whatever direction things go in, that Italy is gonna Italy.
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2022, 04:42:16 PM »

I saw that Meloni was appointed PM, but did she finally include FI in her government ? And did the government even managed to get formed ?
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2022, 08:43:46 PM »

I saw that Meloni was appointed PM, but did she finally include FI in her government ? And did the government even managed to get formed ?

FI is in. Their ministers are apparently all pro-EU/NATO figures within the party.
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2022, 10:22:34 AM »

B… Based?
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2022, 10:25:43 AM »

I saw that Meloni was appointed PM, but did she finally include FI in her government ? And did the government even managed to get formed ?

FI is in. Their ministers are apparently all pro-EU/NATO figures within the party.

She is making herself more acceptable as an Italian leader to the outside world.  And that's all to the good. 
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2022, 10:32:55 AM »

I saw that Meloni was appointed PM, but did she finally include FI in her government ? And did the government even managed to get formed ?

FI is in. Their ministers are apparently all pro-EU/NATO figures within the party.

She is making herself more acceptable as an Italian leader to the outside world.  And that's all to the good. 


Only because she's going to fail anyway.

Meloni is adopting the image of a team player internationally so that her government is given more leeway by Italy's traditional partners. This is a good thing for immediate international concerns (for instance, Ukraine has grounds to be pleased they're not causing trouble), but in the long term, it's part of a strategy to allow Meloni to entrench herself in the way Orban did. Hungary paid the price in the short term, and it didn't work out for the EU in the long term anyway.

Thankfully, any autocrat would struggle to truly consolidate power in modern Italy - even a competent fascist with a lot of leeway from other countries. I expect Meloni won't even last the full term.

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