Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[Flyersfan232]

how do you think this will effect the up coming elections in poland next year and hungary this year?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

how do you think this will effect the up coming elections in poland next year and hungary this year?

Well, I'd say the governments in both countries have adopted firmly anti-Russian (government) rhetoric in response to recent events, so in theory the impact this will have on public voting preferences should not be very large. But this is too early to forecast anything concrete.

[Person Man]

how do you think this will effect the up coming elections in poland next year and hungary this year?

This pretty much dooms populist parties. Establishment parties can just say they are responsible for the war.  The hardliners that control Poland are staunch Anti-Putin.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Russians now reportedly dumping their soldiers into the sea to save the Ukrainians the trouble of shooting them:

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497664806958030851?s=20&t=b_94FJ3infb...

[Person Man]

Russians now reportedly dumping their soldiers into the sea to save the Ukrainians the trouble of shooting them:

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497664806958030851?s=20&t=b_94FJ3infb...

Putin’s soldiers die, God laughs.

[certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

https://mobile.twitter.com/IdeologyWars/status/1497746086735265798

[NOVA Green]

Ten people of "Greek origin" were killed by airstrikes per New York Times:

Ten civilians “of Greek origin” were killed by Russian airstrikes near the city of Mariupol, on Ukraine’s southeastern coast, Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis of Greece said on Twitter. “Stop the bombing now!” he wrote. Earlier Saturday, Greece’s Foreign Ministry summoned Russia’s ambassador in Athens.

Greek update:

I would imagine that Anti-War sentiment will be dramatic in Greece and quite possibly large massive street demos Tomorrow against Putin's invasion of Ukraine, with all major political formations united.

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Greece’s Foreign Ministry said Saturday that 10 people of Greek origin were killed and six others injured in fighting near Mariupol, a city in southeastern Ukraine and home to many from the Greek diaspora.

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The fatalities include six people from the village of Sartana and four from Buhas. In Sartana, about six miles from Mariupol, six people — including one child — were injured, Greece’s Foreign Ministry said in news releases. At least 240 civilians have died because of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the United Nations said Saturday.

The deaths of the people of Greek origin — whose identities were not released — prompted Greek government officials to summon the Russian ambassador in Athens to the Foreign Ministry for a meeting Monday, according to a statement from Foreign Minister Nikos Dendias.

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In Ukraine, nearly all people of Greek origin reside by Mariupol, Ukraine’s 10th-largest city. Located in the Donetsk oblast, the city of about 400,000 has more than 100,000 people of Greek origin.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/26/russia-ukraine-war-news-updates/#link-R2K3JOQR4BG6ZFMPF63DLLQLAU

[fluffypanther19]

Russians now reportedly dumping their soldiers into the sea to save the Ukrainians the trouble of shooting them:

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497664806958030851?s=20&t=b_94FJ3infb...

i will wait for legit confirmation but if true, the russians are next-level incompetent. like something out of a cartoon incompetent

[NOVA Green]

UK Ministry of Defense updated Assessment:

9 min ago


UK defense ministry: Russia's force "suffering from logistical challenges and strong Ukrainian resistance"


From CNN's Josh Campbell and Jonny Hallam

"Russian forces are facing stiff resistance in Ukraine and making slower progress than they planned, according to Britain's Ministry of Defense in a statement late on Saturday.

"Russian forces are not making the progress they had planned. They are suffering from logistical challenges and strong Ukrainian resistance," the United Kingdom MOD intelligence update said.

The MOD said Russian forces are "sustaining casualties and a number of Russian troops have been taken prisoner by Ukrainian forces."

"The Russian government has reportedly restricted access to a number of social media platforms in a probable attempt to conceal details regarding the situation in Ukraine from their own people," it added.

"

[Chips]

While I used to be able to sympathize with some of Putin's views on certain issues, now I just can't. Putin is 100% without a doubt a war criminal now and I do not sympathize with war criminals! I still don't support US troops in Ukraine and hope that both sides can find a solution rather quickly, which sadly looks pretty unlikely at this point.

Just thought I'd give my two cents.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

https://twitter.com/NatSecGeek/status/1497587401501327361
https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews/status/1497298554381119491
So glad to see Anonymous getting its hands dirty again.

Now THIS is channer culture. The alt-right are entryists.

[Estrella]

Russians now reportedly dumping their soldiers into the sea to save the Ukrainians the trouble of shooting them:

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497664806958030851?s=20&t=b_94FJ3infb...

i will wait for legit confirmation but if true, the russians are next-level incompetent. like something out of a cartoon incompetent

Certainly seems plausible considering how mismanaged the rest of the invasion is.

[Storr]

The ever strong Ukraine-New Jersey alliance: https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1497712275402235907?s=20&t=8ZMsliRwDI1vig...

[certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

The ever strong Ukraine-New Jersey alliance: https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1497712275402235907?s=20&t=8ZMsliRwDI1vig...

We need to hear bronz's thoughts on this

[emailking]

Yup, mil.ru and eng.mil.ru still appear to be offline. After several attempts I was able to temporarily reach kremlin.ru and en.kremlin.ru, but it takes a while and then the website looks pretty shot.

Appears that's because there's not enough bandwidth for the stylesheets and javascript files to load.

[Person Man]

Yup, mil.ru and eng.mil.ru still appear to be offline. After several attempts I was able to temporarily reach kremlin.ru and en.kremlin.ru, but it takes a while and then the website looks pretty shot.

Appears that's because there's not enough bandwidth for the stylesheets and javascript files to load.

All of them are down right now.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

One item curiously lacking from the Ukranian Military Defensive repertoire are the use of items to slow down the Russian Armored Advance.

This would include items such as Anti-Tank Mines (which naturally would trigger explosions of other Russian heavy vehicles), setting off explosive devises along major routes Russian convoys are using, let alone more of an IED style of asymmetrical warfare which has been extremely successful over the decades.

Hell, even the IRA used IED devices back in the '80s in Northern Ireland against English military convoys with a certain technology which used infrared light beams to trigger an explosive device.

This same technology ended up getting shipped back to the Middle East which was effectively used against British convoys in Basra Province in Iraq War 2.0.

Any ideas why (or if I just missed updates when) Ukraine hasn't deployed such tactics against the Russian Military Convoys???

Because Zelensky is a fool who refused to order mass mobilisation until the day of the invasion. So production would only be started and civilians would only be trained in those tactics for like 3 days tops. They didn't even have any barricades on Kyiv's main thoroughfares until Friday.

[fluffypanther19]

The ever strong Ukraine-New Jersey alliance: https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1497712275402235907?s=20&t=8ZMsliRwDI1vig...

i love that ukraine is following my home state's twitter lmao

[certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

Lmao. Russian army, go f**k yourself!

https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497752584215482369

[NOVA Green]

The ever strong Ukraine-New Jersey alliance: https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1497712275402235907?s=20&t=8ZMsliRwDI1vig...

Makes sense considering the large Ukrainian American population in New Jersey...

https://nj1015.com/listen-ukrainians-in-nj-worried-for-their-families-back-home/

https://www.nj.com/hudson/2022/02/hudsons-ukrainian-community-unspeakable-terrifying-feeling-for-families-still-in-their-homeland.html

http://zipatlas.com/us/nj/city-comparison/percentage-ukrainian-population.htm

Heck, even in North Carolina there is a large Ukrainian-American diaspora which gotten local news coverage demonstrating against the Russian Invasion of Ukraine....


https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article258734128.html

[Ferguson97]

The ever strong Ukraine-New Jersey alliance: https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1497712275402235907?s=20&t=8ZMsliRwDI1vig...

Wow I know that guy! Small world, and love that they’re following NJGov!

[John Dule]

I've seen a lot of posts and articles talking about how outmatched Ukraine is in terms of personnel, equipment, and funding. This CNN post, for example, discusses how Russia's military budget eclipses Ukraine's by a factor of ten to one.

However, doesn't this overlook some pretty basic logistical differences? First and most obvious, Ukraine does not have a nuclear weapons program to maintain. Also, Russia is currently maintaining other military sites across Eurasia while a fraction of its army faces literally the entire army of Ukraine. The statistics about vehicles are also pretty scary, but even so, tanks and trucks are only useful so long as you can guarantee them a steady supply of gasoline. The air force comparison is also overwhelming though, which makes it surprising that Russia hasn't been able to obtain total air control yet.

I sincerely hope I underestimated Ukraine at the outset of this war. I didn't realize they actually have one of the higher military budgets in Europe.

[NOVA Green]

Just heard on CNN that Russia has destroyed the dam northwest of Kiev.

Is there another Source?

I think I already read this earlier this morning or heard it on radio.

Well sounds like a Russia missile headed for the dam was shot down 11 hours ago... so not implausible since sounds like Russia has it on their target list of acceptable military options.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ukraine-says-russian-missile-headed-for-water-reservoir-near-kyiv-shot-down/

So recent confirmation of Russian destruction of the Dam near Crimea from the Washington Post:

"Russia claims to explode Ukrainian dam that had blocked water to Crimea

By Meg Kelly, Elyse Samuels and Atthar Mirza7:00 p.m.

Video verified by The Washington Post captured a large explosion at a dam along the Northern Crimean Canal on Saturday that had been a source of increasing tensions between Russia and Ukraine over water rights.

Russian media shared the video, saying Russian military forces were responsible for the destruction. It is unclear who originally recorded the video.

The first frames of the video show that the bridge crossing the river had already fallen by the time of the explosion. Then, a large cloud of black and grey dust enveloped the area. Rubble showers down into the river.

Recent images show that the bridge was intact as recently as January.

Ukraine built the makeshift dam in 2014 after the Russian annexation of Crimea, blocking what had been a main source of water for the region. Hostilities over it increased in recent months after a drought worsened Crimea’s water crisis, and Ukraine made efforts to build a more permanent piece of infrastructure. Reports from as early as May 2021 suggested the situation was serious enough that residents in the area, roughly 10 miles from the Crimea border, were preparing for war."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/26/russia-ukraine-war-news-updates/#link-R2K3JOQR4BG6ZFMPF63DLLQLAU

[Badger]

Russians now reportedly dumping their soldiers into the sea to save the Ukrainians the trouble of shooting them:

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497664806958030851?s=20&t=b_94FJ3infb...

Freeze and drown motherf##kers.  Freeze and drown.

[Badger]

While I used to be able to sympathize with some of Putin's views on certain issues, now I just can't. Putin is 100% without a doubt a war criminal now and I do not sympathize with war criminals! I still don't support US troops in Ukraine and hope that both sides can find a solution rather quickly, which sadly looks pretty unlikely at this point.

Just thought I'd give my two cents.

 I am trying to restrain myself from hyperbole in asking this, but on what possible issues could one agree with Vladimir Putin on? Serious question.