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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« on: November 10, 2021, 03:07:25 AM »

Eminent Domain, while at times a necessary tool, has also been repeatedly abused and used in such fashion as to target poor and minority neighborhoods for elimination. At the same time there is the inherent right to possess and own property, which is a fundamental basis for our system and implications of favoring development over property rights has been to undermine that basic right and such can have a detrimental impact on the long term ability of people to accumulate wealth leading to various inequities that one would expect would naturally arise as such.

I am therefore leaning in favor of this amendment.
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2021, 03:24:04 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2021, 12:14:23 PM »

I extended votes all the time in my eternities as PPT and speaker.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2021, 08:24:10 PM »

I extended votes all the time in my eternities as PPT and speaker.

i've read the rules but i don't find where the PPT can extend votes, only where you can shorting
ok i don't speak english, but some help like the article #

It functions as a rule suspension:
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   Article 10: Rules Disputes
1.) The Senate may elect to suspend any section of these rules at any time with the consent of two-thirds of sitting Senators.

2.) The presiding officer may unilaterally suspend any section of these rules at any time, unless another Senator objects. If a Senator objects, suspending the rules shall require the consent of two-thirds of sitting Senators.

So if someone were to object to the PPT extending the vote or waiving time requirements within 24 hours of him doing so, a vote would need to be started that requires 2/3rds. Since this happens so frequently, since members are so lazy, the overt calling of 24 hours has ceased to occur, but it functions the same way.

Basically the PPT can do whatever he wants rules wise assuming no one objects within 24 hours. Of course this is still limited by the constitution.
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2021, 01:01:18 PM »
« Edited: December 19, 2021, 01:07:57 PM by Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee »


It's not the rules it's the need to have to manipulate the rules to work around a disengaged and lazy membership.

You always have rule override provision even in real life. Likewise for unanimous consent as a bypass of spending the time to vote on everything. These provisions are standard practice and have existed for years.

What has not existed for years is the "arms length legislating" that arguably began in 2017 but got much worse in the discord era.

We also had a break down in leadership in this case and a resulting decline in attempts to communicate the need to get out and vote.

The constitution requires 2/3rds of the whole membership and that was obtained as far as the constitution is concerned

As for how that was obtained is an internal decision as per the constitution giving us exclusive rights to make our own rules.

Now what I would suggest is going back to overtly calling for objections as part of a rule suspension to extend votes when this happens.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2021, 11:24:21 AM »

it's not my work explain to you because that rule is insane
but this explain something on the americans (blue avatar) and the democracy

I can assure you nothing this chamber happens without the support of the majority and at the same time where votes do not occur it is to save time, not to suppress democracy. We don't vote on every amendment for instance.
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