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« on: May 04, 2023, 11:23:13 AM »
« edited: May 04, 2023, 03:46:15 PM by Gracile »

Would him retiring from the House make MD-06 competitive in anyway? It voted within 10% last year and has a PVI of D+2
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2023, 11:46:39 AM »

Would him retiring from the House make MD-06 competitive in anyway? It voted within 10% last year and has a PVI of D+2

If republicans can nominate a sane candidate it would be.

So no
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2023, 12:28:53 PM »

Would him retiring from the House make MD-06 competitive in anyway? It voted within 10% last year and has a PVI of D+2

If republicans can nominate a sane candidate it would be.

So no

Even with a sane candidate, it would not be
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2023, 01:11:23 PM »

Would him retiring from the House make MD-06 competitive in anyway? It voted within 10% last year and has a PVI of D+2

It would have to be a GOP wave, and there's no reason to believe 2024 will be one, at least at the House level.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2023, 03:15:21 PM »

Would him retiring from the House make MD-06 competitive in anyway? It voted within 10% last year and has a PVI of D+2

If republicans can nominate a sane candidate it would be.

So no
The current frontrunner seems to be Minority Leader Jason C. Buckel, who previously called for West Virginia to annex Western Maryland.
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2023, 03:22:06 PM »

Would him retiring from the House make MD-06 competitive in anyway? It voted within 10% last year and has a PVI of D+2

If republicans can nominate a sane candidate it would be.

So no
The current Republican frontrunner is Minority Leader Jason C. Buckel, who previously called for West Virginia to annex Western Maryland.

As for the Democrats, Joe Vogel announced he'd consider a candidacy. Vogel, a Jewish Uruguayan immigrant, is one of two Zoomers elected to office in Maryland.
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2023, 03:29:41 PM »

MD-06 is not competitive at all. Frederick County is now safely blue, plus even the Republican counties in that seat are trending left.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2023, 03:43:20 PM »

As for the Democrats, Joe Vogel announced he'd consider a candidacy. Vogel, a Jewish Uruguayan immigrant, is one of two Zoomers elected to office in Maryland.

He’s also openly gay.

He would be Maryland’s first Latino member of Congress.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2023, 06:00:06 PM »

As for the Democrats, Joe Vogel announced he'd consider a candidacy. Vogel, a Jewish Uruguayan immigrant, is one of two Zoomers elected to office in Maryland.

He’s also openly gay.

He would be Maryland’s first Latino member of Congress.

And he’s only four years older than me…

damnit he was in student gov nvm
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2023, 06:02:02 PM »

I feel that this probably will be a wide open field. Lots of Maryland Democrats will be eager to get up the ladder. I also don't see this race being that competitive in the general, given its a Presidential year.
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2023, 10:00:16 AM »

Biden won this district by 20 points in 2020 right? He'll probably perform the same and it would be really hard to see Republicans winning this seat at the same time.

edit: wait I forgot it lost a lot of Montgomery County but I still don't see it flipping during a presidential election.
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2023, 10:09:04 AM »

Biden won this district by 20 points in 2020 right? He'll probably perform the same and it would be really hard to see Republicans winning this seat at the same time.

edit: wait I forgot it lost a lot of Montgomery County but I still don't see it flipping during a presidential election.

He won it by 10 in 2020, but the seat is still rending left (even the rurals) and has shown no signs of stopping. The Dems running for Senate and Governor did better than Biden in Frederick County and most of the other counties too.
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2023, 04:37:52 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2024, 04:51:26 PM »

I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion of this primary.

It appears that the race is down to April McClain Delaney (John Delaney's wife), Joe Vogel (27-year old state Delegate from MontCo, who I went to college with but don't know personally), and Lesley Lopez (another state Delegate).

There are quite a few other candidates, including the Mayor of Hagerstown, but it seems those three are the only ones who have a chance to win.

However with 5 days left in the race, I get the sense that Vogel might actually eke out the win.
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2024, 05:13:00 PM »

I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion of this primary.

It appears that the race is down to April McClain Delaney (John Delaney's wife), Joe Vogel (27-year old state Delegate from MontCo, who I went to college with but don't know personally), and Lesley Lopez (another state Delegate).

There are quite a few other candidates, including the Mayor of Hagerstown, but it seems those three are the only ones who have a chance to win.

However with 5 days left in the race, I get the sense that Vogel might actually eke out the win.


Really hope Vogel doesn’t win. Every person who I’ve know in College Student Gov has been the most insufferable, duplicitous, and self serving people, whether it was in SC or CO. I hope Lopez can beat him, she seems like an actually decent person.
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2024, 05:31:22 PM »

I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion of this primary.

It appears that the race is down to April McClain Delaney (John Delaney's wife), Joe Vogel (27-year old state Delegate from MontCo, who I went to college with but don't know personally), and Lesley Lopez (another state Delegate).

There are quite a few other candidates, including the Mayor of Hagerstown, but it seems those three are the only ones who have a chance to win.

However with 5 days left in the race, I get the sense that Vogel might actually eke out the win.


Really hope Vogel doesn’t win. Every person who I’ve know in College Student Gov has been the most insufferable, duplicitous, and self serving people, whether it was in SC or CO. I hope Lopez can beat him, she seems like an actually decent person.

GW Student government is a comic opera - it's full of kids absolutely convinced they'll be major politicians (or major political operatives) who take this too seriously. Vogel was one of them.

If you're looking for fun reads, I recommend reading the GW Hatchet (school paper)'s stories about student government/student election scandals over the years:

https://gwhatchet.com/?s=election+scandal
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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2024, 05:34:43 PM »

I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion of this primary.

It appears that the race is down to April McClain Delaney (John Delaney's wife), Joe Vogel (27-year old state Delegate from MontCo, who I went to college with but don't know personally), and Lesley Lopez (another state Delegate).

There are quite a few other candidates, including the Mayor of Hagerstown, but it seems those three are the only ones who have a chance to win.

However with 5 days left in the race, I get the sense that Vogel might actually eke out the win.


Really hope Vogel doesn’t win. Every person who I’ve know in College Student Gov has been the most insufferable, duplicitous, and self serving people, whether it was in SC or CO. I hope Lopez can beat him, she seems like an actually decent person.

GW Student government is a comic opera - it's full of kids absolutely convinced they'll be major politicians (or major political operatives) who take this too seriously. Vogel was one of them.

If you're looking for fun reads, I recommend reading the GW Hatchet (school paper)'s stories about student government/student election scandals over the years:

https://gwhatchet.com/?s=election+scandal


I’ll do you one better, when I was a freshman at UofSC I got involved with the RHA wing of student gov and we had to go to conferences in NC cause South Carolina’s RHA had been dissolved the year before because of embezzlement.

I also saw someone in UofSC’s student gov meeting grill a woman till she was in tears cause she wasn’t in dress code

I think there was atleast one impeachment attempt a year
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2024, 05:58:26 PM »

I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion of this primary.

It appears that the race is down to April McClain Delaney (John Delaney's wife), Joe Vogel (27-year old state Delegate from MontCo, who I went to college with but don't know personally), and Lesley Lopez (another state Delegate).

There are quite a few other candidates, including the Mayor of Hagerstown, but it seems those three are the only ones who have a chance to win.

However with 5 days left in the race, I get the sense that Vogel might actually eke out the win.


Really hope Vogel doesn’t win. Every person who I’ve know in College Student Gov has been the most insufferable, duplicitous, and self serving people, whether it was in SC or CO. I hope Lopez can beat him, she seems like an actually decent person.

GW Student government is a comic opera - it's full of kids absolutely convinced they'll be major politicians (or major political operatives) who take this too seriously. Vogel was one of them.

If you're looking for fun reads, I recommend reading the GW Hatchet (school paper)'s stories about student government/student election scandals over the years:

https://gwhatchet.com/?s=election+scandal


You’ll find that in any student government. Everyone thinks they’re gonna be the next House of Cards or Scandal real-life persona. It’s insufferable. Then theyare shocked when they realize that being in student government won’t overcome their 2.7 GPA and 154 LSAT to get into Yale or Harvard Law.
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2024, 06:49:35 PM »

I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion of this primary.

It appears that the race is down to April McClain Delaney (John Delaney's wife), Joe Vogel (27-year old state Delegate from MontCo, who I went to college with but don't know personally), and Lesley Lopez (another state Delegate).

There are quite a few other candidates, including the Mayor of Hagerstown, but it seems those three are the only ones who have a chance to win.

However with 5 days left in the race, I get the sense that Vogel might actually eke out the win.


Really hope Vogel doesn’t win. Every person who I’ve know in College Student Gov has been the most insufferable, duplicitous, and self serving people, whether it was in SC or CO. I hope Lopez can beat him, she seems like an actually decent person.

GW Student government is a comic opera - it's full of kids absolutely convinced they'll be major politicians (or major political operatives) who take this too seriously. Vogel was one of them.

If you're looking for fun reads, I recommend reading the GW Hatchet (school paper)'s stories about student government/student election scandals over the years:

https://gwhatchet.com/?s=election+scandal


You’ll find that in any student government. Everyone thinks they’re gonna be the next House of Cards or Scandal real-life persona. It’s insufferable. Then theyare shocked when they realize that being in student government won’t overcome their 2.7 GPA and 154 LSAT to get into Yale or Harvard Law.

My pet psychoanalysis of student government is that, because in most cases it’s entirely powerless, it only attracts people who want power for power’s sake. Like having some fancy position makes them somehow better. Since it only lasts at most five years and because absolutely nothing is at stake you can be a ruthless cutthroat bastard with little to no repercussions besides temporary social stigma that is gone once you graduate.

It doesn’t attract many people who want to actually do better cause they realize you can’t do anything in SG.
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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2024, 08:13:39 AM »

I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion of this primary.

It appears that the race is down to April McClain Delaney (John Delaney's wife), Joe Vogel (27-year old state Delegate from MontCo, who I went to college with but don't know personally), and Lesley Lopez (another state Delegate).

There are quite a few other candidates, including the Mayor of Hagerstown, but it seems those three are the only ones who have a chance to win.

However with 5 days left in the race, I get the sense that Vogel might actually eke out the win.


Really hope Vogel doesn’t win. Every person who I’ve know in College Student Gov has been the most insufferable, duplicitous, and self serving people, whether it was in SC or CO. I hope Lopez can beat him, she seems like an actually decent person.

GW Student government is a comic opera - it's full of kids absolutely convinced they'll be major politicians (or major political operatives) who take this too seriously. Vogel was one of them.

If you're looking for fun reads, I recommend reading the GW Hatchet (school paper)'s stories about student government/student election scandals over the years:

https://gwhatchet.com/?s=election+scandal


You’ll find that in any student government. Everyone thinks they’re gonna be the next House of Cards or Scandal real-life persona. It’s insufferable. Then theyare shocked when they realize that being in student government won’t overcome their 2.7 GPA and 154 LSAT to get into Yale or Harvard Law.

My pet psychoanalysis of student government is that, because in most cases it’s entirely powerless, it only attracts people who want power for power’s sake. Like having some fancy position makes them somehow better. Since it only lasts at most five years and because absolutely nothing is at stake you can be a ruthless cutthroat bastard with little to no repercussions besides temporary social stigma that is gone once you graduate.

It doesn’t attract many people who want to actually do better cause they realize you can’t do anything in SG.

I remember debate in my student government about whether to call members “senators” because some people wanted “senator” on their resumes and others thought that was stupid.
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2024, 11:54:59 PM »

Vogel lost, all is well
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« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2024, 12:01:25 AM »


Reading the thread...I love just how much the thread veered away from the original topic at hand.
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