Massive Violent Anti-Milo Protests at UC Berkeley

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Screw fascists. They might win for a little while but they won't win the horse race. The important thing is not to give in to these people.   [Modified by Torie}

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Are the liberals who are saying "Just let him speak, what's the big deal?" aware that Milo was planning on reading off a list of students that were undocumented immigrants?

It's true.



What an awful human being.

Okay.  Yeah.  Fck him.  Students can do whatever they want with him and I won't shed a tear.  Little Milo doesn't need a safe space.

According to the right-wing and some Democrats here it would've been better to let him expose these students to potential danger, such as harassment, than prevent him from speaking because "muh free speech!" When you threaten people and seek to incite hatred against groups of people, you have no right to that kind of speech. You should be met with resistance, as he was, barred from the university by its administration, and criminally charged with hate speech.

He did no such thing. Disagreeing with someone is not threatening or inciting violence. But rioting, making verbal threats, and silencing dissent certainly meets those qualifications, which is what liberals do all the time.

I don't expect to get through to people like you. You can't seem to comprehend the simple idea that disagreeing with someone does not make them evil - or bigoted - or racist - or phobia this or phobia that. Regurgitate. Regurgitate.

It's stupid and old. It's the politics of ignorant, hateful, spiteful know nothings. The politics of the brain washed.



I'm going to use your logic.

-I deem you, your ideas, and your speech as hateful bigotry, racist and fascist. Because I said so. No debate about it. I'm morally right and you're evil.
-I deem you a NAZI™.
-Therefor, I have the right to silence and even assault you. I can punch you in the face.
-It's you're fault, really. YOU'RE the one who incited me with your hateful rhetoric.


Of course, in reality land, the American constitution protects the public from dangerous radicals like you.

No amount of yelling NAZI™ is going to change that.

You don't get to decide what is hateful and what is acceptable. You don't get to silence people. The constitution protects us against totalitarianism.

When you are threatening to out someone as an undocumented immigrant, you are going beyond just "disagreeing" with someone. It's personal at that point. And we are going to stand up as group for those people. If you get punched in the face, it is you own fault for being an asshole.

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Can you punch an ICE agent in the face? Surely, if you can assault someone for reporting an immigrant, you should be able to do far worse to someone who is actually doing the deporting?

Can't you go somewhere else, like stormfront or something? We obviously need immigration reform, and need to secure the border by instituting E-VERIFY! That being said, people who are already here and and are living their lives like any other Americans should be allowed to stay. If you disagree with that, you are a fucking racist and should leave this forum.

Also, Trump needs to be opposed at every single step of the way, even if it costs 2020. That may not be wholly relevant to this thread (I honestly don't give a sh**t about Milo lol), but it's relevant in the direction this country goes. Fascism cannot be accepted as business as usual. It must be opposed at every opportunity possible. Screw the "moderates" who don't like it. Although it must be peaceful.....except for a punch in the face for some know-nothing loser fascist.

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I'm sure the left wingers who support the actions of these rioters will be at a loss for words when Trump wins reelection with 350+ electoral votes. Keep up the good work, the democratic party is down and you guys are keeping it that way

Trump will probably win re-election. What is more important is to not legitimize Trump. The Republicans did this brilliantly with Obama.

Also, I doubt he wins the popular vote. Trump is such a freaking loser lol. [Torie again, the bastard]

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I'm sure the left wingers who support the actions of these rioters will be at a loss for words when Trump wins reelection with 350+ electoral votes. Keep up the good work, the democratic party is down and you guys are keeping it that way

Trump will probably win re-election. What is more important is to not legitimize Trump. The Republicans did this brilliantly with Obama.

Also, I doubt he wins the popular vote. Trump is such a fucking loser lol.

Just keep screaming "he will not divide us" and New York could be in play lol

Hell, maybe California will be in play! It doesn't matter. Fascism must be opposed! you want to support the goddamn fascist then that is your perogative. If we all survive to have kids, you will have a tough time explaining your support of Trump. You will likely lie. How did the Germans handle that in the 1950's and 60's?

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Can you punch an ICE agent in the face? Surely, if you can assault someone for reporting an immigrant, you should be able to do far worse to someone who is actually doing the deporting?

Can't you go somewhere else, like stormfront or something? We obviously need immigration reform, and need to secure the border by instituting E-VERIFY! That being said, people who are already here and and are living their lives like any other Americans should be allowed to stay. If you disagree with that, you are a fucking racist and should leave this forum.

Also, Trump needs to be opposed at every single step of the way, even if it costs 2020. That may not be wholly relevant to this thread (I honestly don't give a sh**t about Milo lol), but it's relevant in the direction this country goes. Fascism cannot be accepted as business as usual. It must be opposed at every opportunity possible. Screw the "moderates" who don't like it. Although it must be peaceful.....except for a punch in the face for some know-nothing loser fascist.

You really think people who don't feel illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay only think so because of racism? There are plenty of other reasons

This. But apparently even complaining about visa overstays by white europeans is super dee duper secret racist code or something.

You really think he was going to out white europeans? I don't get why we can't be honest about what this is all about. There is a palpable fear on the right that the "demographics" of this country are changing. They don't care about visa overstays by white people.

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When you are threatening to out someone as an undocumented immigrant, you are going beyond just "disagreeing" with someone. It's personal at that point. And we are going to stand up as group for those people. If you get punched in the face, it is you own fault for being an asshole.

So the left is officially embracing the principle of "snitches get stitches"? Because your comment totally blames the victims of crime for coming forward as witnesses to a separate crime. Im not saying tattling isnt a dick move and of course a false id might be subject to a slander suit ... but you are acting as though revealing truthful information relevant to a crime is somehow worthy of violent repression. That is disgusting. I smoke weed and I would never endorse violence against some jerk who rats out potheads to the police. Criminals assume the risk of being caught and just because the "fuk borders" crowd hates the idea that not everyone can come and go as they please doesn't mean its not still a crime.

Seriously. Reflect on what you are pushing. By your logic rightwing militias are justified in harassing those who rat on them for gun violations. Drug dealers can take out police snitches.  Pimps can beat up prostitutes who go to the police for help. Casually dismissing violence used to silence the truth is pretty damn bad.

This goes beyond snitching on Milo's part, though.  If that's all he wanted to do, he could have easily gone to the immigration authorities and reported them in private.  (This isn't something I would do as long as these people were otherwise peaceful, law-abiding citizens who might not have even entered this country on their own accord, but that's a different discussion.)  Milo specifically wanted to use his platform to target individuals and open them up to harassment and social ostracization.  That doesn't justify violence, per se, and it certainly doesn't justify destroying property or setting fires like some of these protestors were doing, but attempting to put other people's lives or reputations in danger makes you a fair target for retaliation especially by those whom you seek to destroy.

And Milo wasn't a "victim" even if the people he intended to rat on were genuinely 'guilty.'  He's a British guy with a funny hairdo who gains followers just from being a bully.  And that of course alone should be enough to question the man's own probity.

I also wonder if he wouldn't have "outed" people who weren't even here illegally. It would probably just be an enemies hit list of the right wing/alt-right at Berkeley.

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Can you punch an ICE agent in the face? Surely, if you can assault someone for reporting an immigrant, you should be able to do far worse to someone who is actually doing the deporting?

Can't you go somewhere else, like stormfront or something? We obviously need immigration reform, and need to secure the border by instituting E-VERIFY! That being said, people who are already here and and are living their lives like any other Americans should be allowed to stay. If you disagree with that, you are a fucking racist and should leave this forum.

Also, Trump needs to be opposed at every single step of the way, even if it costs 2020. That may not be wholly relevant to this thread (I honestly don't give a sh**t about Milo lol), but it's relevant in the direction this country goes. Fascism cannot be accepted as business as usual. It must be opposed at every opportunity possible. Screw the "moderates" who don't like it. Although it must be peaceful.....except for a punch in the face for some know-nothing loser fascist.

You really think people who don't feel illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay only think so because of racism? There are plenty of other reasons

This. But apparently even complaining about visa overstays by white europeans is super dee duper secret racist code or something.

You really think he was going to out white europeans? I don't get why we can't be honest about what this is all about. There is a palpable fear on the right that the "demographics" of this country are changing. They don't care about visa overstays by white people.

Assuming that everyone thinks identically is foolish. I care about visa overstays by white europeans. I have no anger for illegal immigrants who want to come here. My unease with general immigration is not racially motivated. So 1 weird person invalidates your argument. No one is saying there aren't idiots out there who dislike only the brown immigrants. But using someones stance on deporting illegal immigrants as a full proof litmus test for racism is wrong and it encourages more of this unhelpful absolutist thinking that if someone disagrees about politics they are therefore bad.

You might not be able to tell from my posts, but I also think that immigration needs to be slowed down at this point of time (due to the economic conditions), with priority given to those who will generate income and taxes for the government. What I vehemently disagree with is how the Trumpists are starting to treat legal immigrants and people of color in general, including citizens. While I would have disagreed with the EO regarding the 7 countries, what really gets me mad is how it also targets people who are already here in the country, and for a while, green card holders.

So if you think immigration needs to be slowed down, that is fine. Or if you are against illegal immigration, that's fine too. What is going on in Trump's America is totally different. They are going to go after legal immigrants who are already here. And no, it won't be the European ones. Steve Bannon is in charge of Trump now. And I don't even think he has the country behind him. All he has to do is keep us fat, happy and misinformed and he can do whatever he wants. That's why he must be opposed at every step of the way.