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« on: June 08, 2017, 04:08:51 PM »

The exit poll could be off. But wow, Conservatives at around 314 would make every seat really matter.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2017, 04:18:03 PM »

so..... Cons+UUP+DUP government or a 'progressive alliance' of everybody with Sinn Fein taking seats to block the conservatives.

Exit polls means CON/DUP/UUP is short of a majority.

But perhaps not if Sinn Fein doesn't count. As I said, every seat would matter with this result.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2017, 04:36:59 PM »

Would May be the shortest PM in office ever?

Since Andrew Bonar Law in the 20s, yes.

Lol Bonar Law (one of the funniest names in political history)

Dick. Armey.

Dick Swett. Butch Otter.
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2017, 05:59:57 PM »


Yeah, Labour did pretty well there.
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2017, 07:17:21 PM »

Predictit probably should have had some more categories for Conservatives losing seats. <330 is at 94% odds.
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2017, 08:29:55 PM »

In what has to be one of the stranger turns of fortunes...it appears the Conservatives might squeak by thanks to their support in Scotland in order to compensate for their losses in England.

They're so lucky that first past the post is used.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2017, 11:43:52 PM »
« Edited: June 08, 2017, 11:46:02 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

BBC Forecast seats: CON 316, LAB 265, SNP 34, LD 13, OTH 22

In this forecast, CON+DUP is the bare minimum of 326 for a majority (of course assuming SF broke traditional and were seated).
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2017, 02:40:16 AM »

I am extremely happy for Corbyn.  He really gave all those clowns in the labour party a huge lesson.

He still lost though. With a different leader, Labour might be largest party at least - or May wouldn't have called the election in the first place.

No, he polled much better, and that was before he had his surge.

http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-jeremy-corbyn-is-a-bigger-vote-winner-than-tony-blair-general-election-labour-2017-5
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2017, 05:34:36 AM »

DUP supporting the government but the assembly election ending badly with no power sharing will force direct rule which in turn with the makeup of the coming government could be disastrous

It is kind of ironic that DUP might be preventing a hung UK parliament while the Northern Ireland parliament is totally hung.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2017, 04:52:32 PM »

Is there any chance that Sinn Fein might take their seats at a later date just for a no confidence vote?
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jfern
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E: -7.38, S: -8.36

« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2017, 04:56:42 PM »

Is there any chance that Sinn Fein might take their seats at a later date just for a no confidence vote?

Highly, highly doubtful, I'd think. But screwing the DUP could be the one thing that they might want to do. However, the Tories' 318 plus the DUP's 10 gives 328, which is an outright majority.

Obviously this would be after the opposition parties gain in some by elections so that it's in that 322-325 range where Sinn Fein matters.
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2017, 09:16:37 PM »

Some Irish might be happy that DUP will be in coalition.

Fintan O’Toole: DUP has done the most for a united Ireland
Unionist party’s idiocy and sleazy behaviour threatens Northern Ireland’s foundations

http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-dup-has-done-the-most-for-a-united-ireland-1.2956656
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