Huckabee: US moving towards "criminalization of Christianity"

[Abraham Reagan]

Christians who claim the "persecution" and "criminalization" of the faith in the United States belittle the actual persecution of Christians in places such as Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, and North Korea.

Oh and gay rights activists trying to cry "DISCRIMINATION" about business owners not wanting to cater their gay weddings doesn't belittle the actual persecution of gays in countries like Iran, Syria, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia?

[Abraham Reagan]

Christians who claim the "persecution" and "criminalization" of the faith in the United States belittle the actual persecution of Christians in places such as Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, and North Korea.

Oh and gay rights activists trying to cry "DISCRIMINATION" about business owners not wanting to cater their gay weddings doesn't belittle the actual persecution of gays in countries like Iran, Syria, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia?

"Gays should not be upset because in some places of the world they're murdered"

Right, because that's exactly what I was saying. Couldn't you just take the exact thing you just said, replace the word gays with Christians and maybe begin to see where people like Mike Huckabee are coming from? Are you saying a Christian business owner should not be allowed to be upset if he's forced to facilitate a ceremony that goes against his values?

[Abraham Reagan]

The fact that he is allowed to say that disproves his point.

Well he's allowed to say it because freedom of speech is a basic American freedom, but what he means is that there's becoming a cultural criminalization of Christianity, not a legal one (obviously). A criminalization to the point where Christians are pretty much told to shut up and keep their "hateful values" to themselves so that society can move "forward".

[Abraham Reagan]

Couldn't you just take the exact thing you just said, replace the word gays with Christians and maybe begin to see where people like Mike Huckabee are coming from?

... no?

Before: "Gays should not be upset because in some places of the world they're murdered"
After: "Christians should not be upset because in some places of the world they're murdered"

You seriously don't think it could apply to both? If gays can decry their social situation here, why can't a Christian who feels like he's being demonized for his beliefs do the same?

[Abraham Reagan]

Couldn't you just take the exact thing you just said, replace the word gays with Christians and maybe begin to see where people like Mike Huckabee are coming from?

... no?

Before: "Gays should not be upset because in some places of the world they're murdered"
After: "Christians should not be upset because in some places of the world they're murdered"

You seriously don't think it could apply to both? If gays can decry their social situation here, why can't a Christian who feels like he's being demonized for his beliefs do the same?

Because a Christian who feels like they're being demonized in America is an idiot?

Ok, we're obviously not having a real conversation here if you think you can generalize such a large number of people as idiots.

[Abraham Reagan]

Says the guy who believes in a failed ideology that people cross oceans to get away from.

[Abraham Reagan]

Couldn't you just take the exact thing you just said, replace the word gays with Christians and maybe begin to see where people like Mike Huckabee are coming from?

... no?

Before: "Gays should not be upset because in some places of the world they're murdered"
After: "Christians should not be upset because in some places of the world they're murdered"

You seriously don't think it could apply to both? If gays can decry their social situation here, why can't a Christian who feels like he's being demonized for his beliefs do the same?

One group in America is the overwhelming majority and always has been; has practically all of the institutions controlled by its members, always has, for a long period into the foreseeable future will; and has shaped the country's culture in a myriad number of fundamental ways.

Your point about Christians being a majority and shaping the country is absolutely right and only serves to support my point. Why should the majority of the nation be forced to hide and feel ashamed of values that have always, up until recently, been uplifted and celebrated?