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« on: November 28, 2015, 08:09:35 AM »

Why can't you defend your positions on their own merits instead of hiding behind the constitution like a coward?
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2015, 08:50:18 PM »

Why can't you defend your positions on their own merits instead of hiding behind the constitution like a coward?

Ugh.

This is why unwritten constitutions win: you aren't held hostage by a bunch of dead guys.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2015, 04:42:56 AM »

I disagree, tbh. The constitution was a compromise between two factions, and as such was never really seen as a "perfect" or sacrosanct" document by the founders. Which is why explicitly breaking the constitution is a practice almost as old as the document itself. Of course, a compromise hashed out by rich northern industrialists and southern plantation owners a few centuries ago is hardly an ideal basis for government in the 2st century.


Even so, surely you recognise that failing to justify your position, rather, merely hiding behind a weasley "it's unconstitutional!" smacks of laziness. The constitution is not a security blanket.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2015, 02:43:10 PM »

An authoritarian government that wants to torture people will do so, no matter what the Constitution says. It's civil society and constant vigilance that protects our rights. It's unions, and political parties, and religious organisations, and NGO's, and law firms, and the media, and business and charities and (most importantly) and engaged and aware citizenry. That's why several African states with 'good' constitutions tend to fall into despotism - because years of poor governance and foreign looting has robbed them of civil society; and states with no written conditions (like the UK and NZ) or crappy outdated ones (like America's) are relatively well run.
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