Opinion of pornography

[Frodo]

Addicting and destructive -so much so that when I look back on it, I wish I never came across those pictures and videos in the first place.  

Fortunately I have weaned myself off of it, so I consider myself clean again.  

[Frodo]

Just to clear the air (and get rid of some unwanted attention) -I meant 'destructive' in the sense that it was taking time away from my studies, affected my social life, and delayed my graduation from college by at least several years.  

No, it is not as serious as losing a job over it (unlike some federal employees), or destroying a relationship, but it was bad enough from my perspective.  Enough such that it spurred me to quit.  

P.S.  Memphis -there is no need for you to get so defensive about the issue.  The porn industry is doing well enough that it does not need your help in this thread. 



 

[Frodo]

Heterosexual male sexuality is of great importance to heterosexual females. They have a dog in this fight too.

Heterosexual female sexuality is of great importance to heterosexual females. 

This idea that we all orbit around straight male sexuality is kinda ridiculous.

Of course the great majority of heterosexual females orbit around male sexuality, as their own sexual desires, if any, are so minimal (whether naturally or culturally sublimated I cannot say) that what remains to them is gaining non-sexual benefits from catering (as parsimoniously as possible) to male sexuality.

If you were a hooker, and having sex with a complete stranger is the difference between starving to death and finding your next meal, you wouldn't have much of a sexual appetite either.   I am sure you come across a lot of those....  

And I imagine a great many women who aren't prostitutes are cursed with partners who don't know (and, like you, don't give a damn) how to arouse them properly.  

[Frodo]

And after all, what do you mean 'morally superior'?  Doesn't mean a thing to me.  Have you ever had your hormone levels checked?

I care as much about my hormone levels as you care about your moral standing.

You should care, buddy!  Could lead to lots of negative health effects if you have no testosterone at all.

Heterosexual male sexuality is of great importance to heterosexual females. They have a dog in this fight too.

Heterosexual female sexuality is of great importance to heterosexual females. 

This idea that we all orbit around straight male sexuality is kinda ridiculous.

Of course the great majority of heterosexual females orbit around male sexuality, as their own sexual desires, if any, are so minimal (whether naturally or culturally sublimated I cannot say) that what remains to them is gaining non-sexual benefits from catering (as parsimoniously as possible) to male sexuality.

Say what. Women have minimal sexual desires? I really don't think that's true.

As for my other comment I was primarily thinking of HockeyDude and Memphis. Certainly not of Antonio or Nathan and not really of you or Grumps either.

The idea is that there are alpha males and beta males. And then there are nice ones and nasty ones. So cold or negative alpha males are classic bad boys. Negative betas are basically neurotic and geeky misogynists and I sense that we have a lot of those on Atlas.

I'm not exactly fond of this whole alpha/beta/whatever classification, since I like to think that, flawed as we are, we're not complete animals.

But yeah, "alphas" probably don't post on internet forums...

You don't think humans are animals? Ugh...

Gustaf, are you trying to say women have the same level of sexual desire as men? I don't think that is true (doesn't mean they have no sexual desire), and neither is it true in most mammal species. Women also tend to be more nurturing of children, just like in most mammal species. This women=men argument you guys are making is ridiculous, though no doubt quite popular in your humanities classes.

Women may be physiologically different (and therefore they can't get aroused the same as we do almost instantaneously), but it doesn't make their sexual desires any less voracious than ours.  Why do you think over history there have been so many constraints placed on them in so many societies and civilizations around the world?

And I imagine a great many women who aren't prostitutes are cursed with partners who don't know (and, like you, don't give a damn) how to arouse them properly.  

What the heck buddy?  That's terribly sexist of you - you think women are just passive receptacles for what your prowess?  As for myself, I think her satisfaction is her own responsibility - it is up to her.  (I admit I'm being a bit facetious - for a certain type of woman I'm the mote just - but generally speaking that's a woman who, older, experienced, and really knows what she's doing).

lolwut

[Frodo]

And I imagine a great many women who aren't prostitutes are cursed with partners who don't know (and, like you, don't give a damn) how to arouse them properly.  

What the heck buddy?  That's terribly sexist of you - you think women are just passive receptacles for what your prowess?  As for myself, I think her satisfaction is her own responsibility - it is up to her. 

lolwut

Isn't the point obvious? - your assumption that the realization of the woman's sexuality is dependent upon the mans' 'skill' (that the man 'doesn't know how to make the woman have a pleasure') is the height of gender stereotyping. 

I cannot spend too much time with you since Christmas dinner (roasted beef) is almost ready, but I will say this:

I made no such assumption.  As I said earlier, the physiology of a woman is different from that of a man.  Therefore, she cannot get aroused as quickly as a man can.  And when you're in a relationship, it helps to know that.  You cannot rush into having sex -you have to get there slowly and gradually.  Since this board is moderated by Inks, I am obviously not going into specifics, but foreplay is a big part of it.

Now, this isn't to say that women need men to get aroused -why do you think they seem to always have 'toys' stashed away in their bedroom?  But when you're in an intimate relationship, you have to put her 'needs' above yours. 

But I cannot expect someone as selfish and self-centered as you to care about any of that.   

[Frodo]

This thread explains why women don't post here.

Oh, do elaborate.  I like to think women are not so fragile as you seem to imply.