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Question: Would eastern and western Ukraine be better off going their separate ways?
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Snowstalker Mk. II
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« on: February 25, 2014, 03:47:16 PM »

I know Gully's question was rhetorical, but:



Red=Germany
Blue=Czechia
Brown=Slovakia
Purple=Poland
Yellow=Ukraine
Orange=Romania
Green=Hungary
Lime Green=Italy
Beige=Yugoslavia
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Snowstalker Mk. II
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2014, 04:25:16 PM »

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A solution which would have satisfied no-one - like the post-war treaties. And for someone supporting the breakup of countries, you seem keen on 'Yugoslavia'.

I never said that Ukraine should split up (and Yugoslavia was, at least objectively, a better deal than the breakup, at least as it happened). Those just seemed like the least bad borders (other than a few tweaks I could make now that I look at it again) that could be carved out of the Habsburg Empire.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2014, 04:31:20 PM »

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A solution which would have satisfied no-one - like the post-war treaties. And for someone supporting the breakup of countries, you seem keen on 'Yugoslavia'.

I never said that Ukraine should split up (and Yugoslavia was, at least objectively, a better deal than the breakup, at least as it happened). Those just seemed like the least bad borders (other than a few tweaks I could make now that I look at it again) that could be carved out of the Habsburg Empire.

You are making the error of assuming that it seems 'rational' for a cartographic point of view (as seen in Lancaster, PA!) is necessarily the best solution on the ground.

(least bad = rational and coherent !)

Oh, I'm fully aware that my proposed map would go down just as poorly as the actual postwar border changes did, but I tried. Tongue
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