If the SCOTUS rules Obamacare unconstitutional...

[J. J.]

I would say yes, because what else does he have for "domestic achievements?"

Other than dealing successfully with the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, saving the auto industry, Wall Street reform, student loan reform and equal pay for women, nothing.

The economy has not improved enough, and may have improved as much or more under Mcain.

If "student loan reform" is Obama's major achievement in four years, he's finished.

[J. J.]

The economy has not improved enough, and may have improved as much or more under Mcain.

And I could have banged Scarlett Johansson if only I had the chance to meet her.

And instead, like Obama, you spend your weekend alone.  The what could have happened, in theory, really has no bearing on it.

[J. J.]

The economy has not improved enough, and may have improved as much or more under Mcain.

And I could have banged Scarlett Johansson if only I had the chance to meet her.

And instead, like Obama, you spend your weekend alone.  The what could have happened, in theory, really has no bearing on it.

ΟΚ, can you repeat that in English?

What did happen, happened.  Any arguments that "it could have been worse" are much like you fantasy weekend.

[J. J.]

The economy has not improved enough, and may have improved as much or more under Mcain.

And I could have banged Scarlett Johansson if only I had the chance to meet her.

And instead, like Obama, you spend your weekend alone.  The what could have happened, in theory, really has no bearing on it.

ΟΚ, can you repeat that in English?

What did happen, happened.  Any arguments that "it could have been worse" are much like you fantasy weekend.

And so are yours about how "it could have been better".

Note the first part, "The economy has not improved enough... ."  McCain's proposal, which was similar to Hilary's, may have worked better as well.  We know where we are under Obama and most people are not happy about it.

[J. J.]

The economy has not improved enough, and may have improved as much or more under Mcain.

And I could have banged Scarlett Johansson if only I had the chance to meet her.

And instead, like Obama, you spend your weekend alone.  The what could have happened, in theory, really has no bearing on it.

ΟΚ, can you repeat that in English?

What did happen, happened.  Any arguments that "it could have been worse" are much like you fantasy weekend.

Uh congratulations, you just debunked your own point and proved his, which is that the fact the economy might've also improved under McCain is totally irrelevant.

No, I proved that the argument that it might have been worse is irrelevant, from a political standpoint.  The perception is that the economy is not good enough.

I actually think that had a "housing support" plan been adopted, the economy would have been worse in 2010 than it was, and better going into 2012 than it is now.   Obama chose a different path and he, along with the rest of us, will be paying the price for it.

[J. J.]

I'm also not convinced that Scalia (and possibly Thomas, who's unreadable on this particular subject at the moment because of how profound his dereliction of duty habit gets during oral argument) won't find that the Anti-Injunction Act applies.

If I understand correctly, there are three issues:

1.  They can't sue until the paying the penalty.

2.  The mandate is unconstitutional.

3.  The whole act is unconstitutional.

There might be a "moving majority" on all these issues.

For example:

#1. 1-8, with Thomas in the minority.

#2. 6-3, with Ginsburg, Sotomayor, and Kagan in the minority.

#3.  5-4, as Stevens casting the deciding vote.

I could easily see something like this (though not necessarily voting this way).

[J. J.]

Surely Kennedy or Roberts, not Stevens, as the deciding vote in issue 3?

I drew a blank on Kennedy, for some reason.

[J. J.]

If the four "liberals" realize the mandate is going down but Thomas will vote to wait til 2015, why wouldn't they join him and live to fight another day?

Because it is not a liberal/conservative thing.