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« on: January 16, 2017, 01:04:13 PM »


Well, Russian government is fundamentally hostile to most branches of Christianity. Why should it be given a rest?
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2017, 11:56:17 PM »


Well, Russian government is fundamentally hostile to most branches of Christianity. Why should it be given a rest?

Because it's not good for BRTD to be so obsessed with hating a country he has no connections to, or for the forum to have this one poster who's so uniquely obsessed with hating said country. If literally any other poster had been the one to bring this up I wouldn't have said that.

Ok. Consider that I am the one who brought it up. Do I have the requisite connection?
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2017, 12:27:36 AM »


Well, Russian government is fundamentally hostile to most branches of Christianity. Why should it be given a rest?

Because it's not good for BRTD to be so obsessed with hating a country he has no connections to, or for the forum to have this one poster who's so uniquely obsessed with hating said country. If literally any other poster had been the one to bring this up I wouldn't have said that.

Ok. Consider that I am the one who brought it up. Do I have the requisite connection?

Please don't be aggro. I didn't say that I thought one needed "a connection" to bring this up. My issue is with BRTD specifically.

Obviously the Putin regime's persecution of non-Orthodox Christians and of anybody else who doesn't fit in its deranged Pochvennichestvo-for-the-cheap-seats concept of Holy Orthodox Russia is absolutely disgusting and I would never claim otherwise. I apologize if I gave off the impression of seeking to minimize it.

So, what is the problem with BRTD?
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2017, 01:04:03 AM »


Well, Russian government is fundamentally hostile to most branches of Christianity. Why should it be given a rest?

Because it's not good for BRTD to be so obsessed with hating a country he has no connections to, or for the forum to have this one poster who's so uniquely obsessed with hating said country. If literally any other poster had been the one to bring this up I wouldn't have said that.

Ok. Consider that I am the one who brought it up. Do I have the requisite connection?

Please don't be aggro. I didn't say that I thought one needed "a connection" to bring this up. My issue is with BRTD specifically.

Obviously the Putin regime's persecution of non-Orthodox Christians and of anybody else who doesn't fit in its deranged Pochvennichestvo-for-the-cheap-seats concept of Holy Orthodox Russia is absolutely disgusting and I would never claim otherwise. I apologize if I gave off the impression of seeking to minimize it.

So, what is the problem with BRTD?

...that he's frothingly, dyspeptically obsessed with reflexively hating all things Russian regardless of degree or existence of relationship with the current or any former regime?

He is not. There is an obvious degree of sarcasm there.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2017, 09:21:26 AM »


Are you being serious? Because centuries of Christian dominance in Europe would tell you otherwise.

yep, and they were persecuting other Christians the entire time.  Yes, they also persecuted Jews, Muslims, the various pagans but since most Europeans where Christian....

Yes, and it's also incredibly Eurocentric to think like that. Europe is not Africa is not Asia and so forth. There's an entire wing of Christianity that more or less died out thanks to Muslim, Buddhist and Zoarastrian persecution in Asia for example. The world is diverse.

Christians have actively participated in whiping out that "wing of Christianity", thank you very much. Actually, there is an even more venerable wing of Christianity that had beencompletely whiped out by the Catholics long before Smiley  The entire history of Christianity is thehistory of whiping oot other Christians: usually in a bloodthirsty fashion. In fact, one would think that killing Christians is, in fact, the main Christian doctrine.
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2017, 06:55:48 PM »


Are you being serious? Because centuries of Christian dominance in Europe would tell you otherwise.

Roman persecution, other European pagans, Islamic invasions, religious violence in the Reformation, the rise of Communism.  Had Hitler been successful he had plans to eventually eliminate Christianity as well.

And then, of course, there is the rest of the world.

No pagans have killed as many Christians for religious reasons as Christians did. As I said, killing Christians seems to be the main Christian doctrine: at least, it is the one thing they all happily do.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2017, 11:42:12 AM »


Are you being serious? Because centuries of Christian dominance in Europe would tell you otherwise.

Roman persecution, other European pagans, Islamic invasions, religious violence in the Reformation, the rise of Communism.  Had Hitler been successful he had plans to eventually eliminate Christianity as well.

And then, of course, there is the rest of the world.

No pagans have killed as many Christians for religious reasons as Christians did. As I said, killing Christians seems to be the main Christian doctrine: at least, it is the one thing they all happily do.

Well, pagans were a non-factor in most of Europe for the last millennium, that's for sure.

Well, nor do Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. taken all together compare in the number of Christians murdered for religious reasons with Christians. Killing Christians is the main Christian doctrine. Historically, if there is a religion of murder, war and cannibalism, then Christianity is it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2017, 08:55:47 PM »


Are you being serious? Because centuries of Christian dominance in Europe would tell you otherwise.

Roman persecution, other European pagans, Islamic invasions, religious violence in the Reformation, the rise of Communism.  Had Hitler been successful he had plans to eventually eliminate Christianity as well.

And then, of course, there is the rest of the world.

No pagans have killed as many Christians for religious reasons as Christians did. As I said, killing Christians seems to be the main Christian doctrine: at least, it is the one thing they all happily do.

When have emergent Christians killed anyone?

Well, we know quite little among the "emergent" Christians - but it does seem they loved fightin each other. But they were already fully emerged by the early 4th century, and were on a killing spree by 400 AD: something which they have never stopped doing since.
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