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« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2019, 12:13:16 AM »

Wouldn’t u say this is more like UK 1983 than US 1936


In 1936 the Dems were dominant in every part of the nation while in the UK the Thatcher landslide was based on sweeping wins in England even though they got wiped out in Scotland
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« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2019, 12:15:40 AM »

Watching the NDTV pundits trying to navigate all of the various crosstabs and state results and alliances versus parties is kind of hilarious.

Agreed
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« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2019, 12:41:21 AM »

After this landslide I wonder if the BJP will get going on building that Ram temple in Ayodhya

Ayodhya is the home of Ram, so it makes sense for a temple of Ram to be there. Im surprised there isnt one already there


Fun Fact: Ram is my favorite avatar of Vishnu  not Krishna like most people
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« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2019, 01:24:59 AM »
« Edited: May 23, 2019, 01:28:11 AM by Old School Republican »

After this landslide I wonder if the BJP will get going on building that Ram temple in Ayodhya

Ayodhya is the home of Ram, so it makes sense for a temple of Ram to be there. Im surprised there isnt one already there


Fun Fact: Ram is my favorite avatar of Vishnu  not Krishna like most people



Enough blood has already been spilt there, people just need to leave that site alone.

Sure, I agree what took place in 1992 cannot be justified.  Still I think the Muslim community is not being reasonable here.  Islam does not really have any rules on where a masque is located while Hinduism care a lot about where a temple is located.  Not sure why the Muslims just do not make a deal to give up that space in return for BJP/RSS helping build several masques in other locations all over UP.

It doesn’t even matter at this point in that sense, muslims have like no power or say so in what happens next, they are at the mercy of Modi, who will obviously continue f#cking them over. They already have it, and I guess some people just feel like rubbing salt in wounds, whatever, nothing can be done about it, guess they will pay on judgment day.

Ayodhya is the home of Ram though, so there should be a Ram Temple there. Like Jaichind said you can build a mosque right next to the new temple as well and everything will be fine.

Its not nationalist or religious fundamentalism to want that that to happen, its actually the opposite: its respecting both Hindus and Muslims and I am sure if the above happened the vast majority of people would be happy.


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« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2019, 01:31:30 AM »

After this landslide I wonder if the BJP will get going on building that Ram temple in Ayodhya

Ayodhya is the home of Ram, so it makes sense for a temple of Ram to be there. Im surprised there isnt one already there


Fun Fact: Ram is my favorite avatar of Vishnu  not Krishna like most people



Enough blood has already been spilt there, people just need to leave that site alone.

Sure, I agree what took place in 1992 cannot be justified.  Still I think the Muslim community is not being reasonable here.  Islam does not really have any rules on where a masque is located while Hinduism care a lot about where a temple is located.  Not sure why the Muslims just do not make a deal to give up that space in return for BJP/RSS helping build several masques in other locations all over UP.

It doesn’t even matter at this point in that sense, muslims have like no power or say so in what happens next, they are at the mercy of Modi, who will obviously continue f#cking them over. They already have it, and I guess some people just feel like rubbing salt in wounds, whatever, nothing can be done about it, guess they will pay on judgment day.

Ayodhya is the home of Ram though, so there should be a Ram Temple there. Like Jaichind said you can build a mosque right next to the new temple as well and everything will be fine.

Its not nationalist or religious fundamentalism to want that that to happen, its actually the opposite: its respecting both Hindus and Muslims and I am sure if the above happened the vast majority of people would be happy.



Yeah, but I’d be willing to bet a penny or two on said mosque being torched by some hindutva element relatively quickly, there’s no point. Besides why is there even any talk of compromise? Muslims don’t hold any power or leverage to make any of that happened, they are powerless.

The people who do that should be jailed for quite some time for that then and I would support increasing current sentences for those types of crimes.


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« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2019, 01:45:24 AM »

After this landslide I wonder if the BJP will get going on building that Ram temple in Ayodhya

Ayodhya is the home of Ram, so it makes sense for a temple of Ram to be there. Im surprised there isnt one already there


Fun Fact: Ram is my favorite avatar of Vishnu  not Krishna like most people



Enough blood has already been spilt there, people just need to leave that site alone.

Sure, I agree what took place in 1992 cannot be justified.  Still I think the Muslim community is not being reasonable here.  Islam does not really have any rules on where a masque is located while Hinduism care a lot about where a temple is located.  Not sure why the Muslims just do not make a deal to give up that space in return for BJP/RSS helping build several masques in other locations all over UP.

It doesn’t even matter at this point in that sense, muslims have like no power or say so in what happens next, they are at the mercy of Modi, who will obviously continue f#cking them over. They already have it, and I guess some people just feel like rubbing salt in wounds, whatever, nothing can be done about it, guess they will pay on judgment day.

Ayodhya is the home of Ram though, so there should be a Ram Temple there. Like Jaichind said you can build a mosque right next to the new temple as well and everything will be fine.

Its not nationalist or religious fundamentalism to want that that to happen, its actually the opposite: its respecting both Hindus and Muslims and I am sure if the above happened the vast majority of people would be happy.



Yeah, but I’d be willing to bet a penny or two on said mosque being torched by some hindutva element relatively quickly, there’s no point. Besides why is there even any talk of compromise? Muslims don’t hold any power or leverage to make any of that happened, they are powerless.

The people who do that should be jailed for quite some time for that then and I would support increasing current sentences for those types of crimes.




Then I wish you were pm of India over Modi Tongue

Im pretty much a law and order conservative by world standards, its just here in the US im liberal cause of how right wing the US is on that issue.

On Modi I have said multiple times blaming him for the 2002 riots is totally unfair as every court has cleared him on that . The reason those riots got out of hand is Law and Order problems not Modi. Think about how much the 1992 LA riots got of hand here in a nation as advanced as ours then think how much worse it would be in a nation plagued with law and order problems like India
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« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2019, 02:07:50 AM »

Back to my theme of BJP vs INC vision of nation building. I think another angle of the Ayodhya conflict is is about the fact that the masque there was build by Babur on top of an allegedly Ram Hindu temple.  The BJP/RSS narrative of Indian history does not consider the Moghul empire as a part of true Indian history.  They are seen as invaders just like the British.  Removing any symbols of this occupation is part of this national building narrative above and beyond the religious sentiments of Hindus toward the Ram temple that was supposedly there for centuries ago.

Most people I know believe this as well, and many tell me they were worse than the British as well.
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« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2019, 12:16:49 PM »

Trump already gave his thoughts:

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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2019, 07:21:41 PM »


look at Kolkata lol
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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2019, 09:07:21 PM »

How did the vote go depending on education level go and Urban vs Rural
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« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2019, 02:39:14 PM »

INC working group finally accepts Rahul Gandhi's resignation and in his place elects Sonia Gandhi as INC Prez.   Not sure if she will accept but she might have no choice unless she is ready to see INC just start falling apart.

The Gandhi family are the reason they are falling apart though
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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2019, 10:54:37 PM »
« Edited: November 08, 2019, 11:00:52 PM by Old School Republican »

Depending how the Ayodhya decision goes there might be riots by the Hindus or Muslims.  We will see.


Hopefully the courts rule in favor of the Mandir but either way police presence needs to be dramatically increased to stop rioting.


India needs to implement US style law and order policies . India is much more similar to the US than Europe yet their law and order policies is more leinant then even Europe
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