1976: Ronald Regan vs. Jimmy Carter

[Derek]

Reagan/Bush-330
Carter/Mondale-208

Reagan chooses Bush due to his associations with The Republican Bosses. Carter tries to make it look like Regan as an extreme Conservative, but Reagan paints carter as an Incompetent one term Governor who struggled to get anything done.

Carrter really wasn't incompetent as Georgia Governor. Only as President. And I think Carter's arguments would ahve much more merit since the U.S. had plenty of liberal Presidents between 1933 and 1980, but had no conservative Presidents during that time (the last conservative President before 1980 was Hoover, so Carter could always tie Reagan to him).

That looks a bit different from your map above. Did you change your mind? How do both candidates finish in the 30's in Texas?

[Derek]

Reagan/Bush-330
Carter/Mondale-208

Reagan chooses Bush due to his associations with The Republican Bosses. Carter tries to make it look like Regan as an extreme Conservative, but Reagan paints carter as an Incompetent one term Governor who struggled to get anything done.

Carrter really wasn't incompetent as Georgia Governor. Only as President. And I think Carter's arguments would ahve much more merit since the U.S. had plenty of liberal Presidents between 1933 and 1980, but had no conservative Presidents during that time (the last conservative President before 1980 was Hoover, so Carter could always tie Reagan to him).

That looks a bit different from your map above. Did you change your mind? How do both candidates finish in the 30's in Texas?

This isn't my map. It's tb75's map. My map was the first one in this thread.

Oh my mistake, but Reagan would've won a close race.

[Derek]

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I would've voted for Reagan over Ford in the primaries if you can believe it or not.

[Derek]

Reagan would have lost that election handily to Carter.

They thought that in 1980 too.

[Derek]

Reagan would have lost that election handily to Carter.

They thought that in 1980 too.

1980 was a different political environment than 1976.

LOL well Carter had like an 8 point lead going down the stretch with 30% approval ratings and then he agreed to a debate a week before the election and Reagan said are you better off than you were 4 years ago, and Carters cheif strategist said that weekend it all crashed his internal polls went from being up by 5 points to down by 6. Bottom line Carter doesnt have that debate hes reelected and we never hear of the Bush's and the so called moral majority again. And  we have a huge surplus and a balanced budged and no illegal wars.

I knew you'd figure a way to bash Bush in this. Didn't Carter lose by 11?

[Derek]

Ok I was thinking Reagan had 52 and he had 51. ok