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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: July 23, 2006, 06:02:42 AM »

First thing to do is to remove the MEP's (they're elected via a closed list). Deva was an M.P from 1992 until 1997 so he can be left on...

While Texasgurl is partly right about concentration, that isn't the whole of the matter...

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Dhanda represents Gloucester, a city that isn't exactly well known for having a big minority population. He suffered from some pretty clear racist voting in 2001 (much of it due to a racist campaign against him by local newspapers) but as he didn't suffer a swing against him at all last year, that seems to have gone away now.

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Deva used to be the M.P for Brentford & Isleworth (a traditional Con/Lab marginal in West London) although he suffered one of the worst poundings of any incumbent M.P since 1945 in 1997. No Tory could have held that seat that year o/c.

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Represents Southall (a heavily Asian suburb in West London), so a clear example of the concentration theory. Also looks like Yoda.

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Represents Tooting (a residential area in South London) which does have a significant Asian population, but nowhere near large enough for the concentration theory to hold.

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Represents an interesting seat south of Middlesbrough; it's made up of very white suburbs (almost all of the North East is very white o/c), some seaside resorts and some old iron mining villages.

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Represents Birmingham Perry Barr, which has a large minority population but is still white-majority. Has suffered from racist voting in both 2001 and 2005 (not as badly so in the latter).
The most Asian constituency in Birmingham (Sparkbrook & Small Heath) is represented by a certain Roger Godsiff (who is not from an ethnic minority...)

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Represents Dewsbury, a textile area in Yorkshire which does have a large Kashmiri population... but is still largely white and not exactly known for being stronghold of racial tolerance. Malik was blocked from representing his home town of Burnley (over the border in Lancashire) by the sudden imposition of an all-woman shortlist.

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Represents Glasgow Central which has a fairly large Asian population IIRC, but which is still largely white. Sarwar was the first Muslim M.P.

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Represents Bradford West, the most Asian third of a city well known for having a huge Asian population. Very few of them are Sikh's though; Singh would have done better in all three of his elections had he been white.
Interestingly enough, there was an attempt to rig him out of his seat in 2005.

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Former M.P (elected in a by-election in 2003, defeated in 2005) for Leicester South, which has a large Gujarati population, which voted for him in 2003, but which swung back to Labour in 2005. The current M.P for the seat is a Unitarian, btw.

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Represents Cambridgshire North West. Which is very white...
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2006, 06:29:05 AM »

The biggest reason though is simply that, in the UK, Commonwealth citizens immediately have the right to vote.

They also tend to be much more interested in local politics than whites; there were quite a few white majority (or white plurality at least) wards in West Yorkshire where Asians almost certainly made up a majority of voters this year.

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Interestingly enough, the Heath Government seriously considered setting something like that up over here.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2006, 06:53:19 AM »

The different demographics between Glasgow Muslims and their English city counterparts can be quite striking.

At a guess that's probably because the Muslims that moved to Glasgow were upwardly-mobile types and fairly well educated?
After all, most of the Muslim population in English cities came over here to work in various low-order manufacturing jobs (and there are still a couple of sweatshops left in inner Bradford; mostly making children's clothing and employing only a handful of people), something that Glasgow c.1960 didn't have a lot of (at least compared to cities down here). Glasgow is still not the easiest place to get to from an English port by land, even now o/c.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2006, 06:56:45 AM »

This strikes a chord. In low turnout elections like local and European in working class precincts, as a pollworker you see next-to-no ethnic Germans under 60 these days.
They're there. They just don't bother to vote.
It was obviously not possible for me to steal the voter register with marks for who had voted and who hadn't (and thus compile these stats) for the precinct I sat on at the local and Bundestag elections, but I am reasonably certain that turnout WAS higher among people without German names. (Notice that, in local elections, all EU citizens are allowed to vote.)

Interesting; why the difference in the franchise for local and national elections? (o/c there's a slight difference between the two here; students can vote in local elections both at home at in their Uni city).
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