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Question: I think about redistributive economical systems as.....
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Freedom Concept: - Income and Wealth
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F Concept: - Only Income
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F Concept: - Only Wealth
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Neutral Concept :- depends on extent
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Horrible Concept:  -Ideological opposition in all cases
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Author Topic: Opinion of redistribution of income/wealth  (Read 2382 times)
ApatheticAustrian
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« on: March 13, 2017, 11:41:02 PM »

Am i doing this right?  :-P

Seems..eh....up-todate..and surely has only been there a few dozen times.


As a center-european EU-socialist, ofc big fan, as long as it is not done in Hollandish-stupid ways.
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2017, 09:44:30 PM »


Actually no, conservatives support ending corporate welfare as well.

i think you should define that more ...specifically.

some conservative or more ideologically pure conservatives do.
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2017, 09:48:20 PM »

I don't know any libertarian who supports corporate welfare.

in theory...none.

practically, if they come from rural districts ....just mention the word "ethanol" and watch them melting.
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2017, 09:45:59 AM »

Redistributionists, who seek to dull this personal stake in meeting the desires of others, in effect make the poor that ostensibly motivate them worse off in order to make the "rich" significantly worse off.

if you think poverty is compassion and the only useful motivator to get your life together, be my guest..i would humbly disagree.
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2017, 10:01:42 AM »

Economics is decided on the margin; all else being equal people would rather not work harder to obtain additional income if they do not have to.

no offense, but where does that "equal people"-nonsense always comes from? no one in their right mind wants to give everyone the same amount of money for different work.

i don't detest inequality, i detest poverty and that is not measured in income differences but very basic human necessities.

and yeah, i agree, it's all about the margin - sensible distribution isn't really channging the margins but even very small changes can mean a lot for millions.
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ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2017, 10:28:12 AM »

"all else being equal"

Is that expression seriously so foreign to you that you do not recognize it?

setting it in quotation marks or not translating it, would surely have helped my understanding - mea culpa. Wink
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2017, 11:46:40 AM »
« Edited: March 19, 2017, 11:56:45 AM by ApatheticAustrian »

ofc inequality can be a bad thing, which means that shrinking inequality, up to a certain degree, is a good thing, which is why i support redistribution. i was just trying to say, that total financial equality is ofc neither the goal nor realistic, since "conservatives" often make the case, that if you want a little bit more equality, you totally want TOTAL equality.
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2017, 01:03:03 PM »

Much simpler approach:

If the middle class is shrinking, even more people became dependent on government help cause the economy isn't working properly or there is a growing case of "working poor", the social net of a country is dissolving and the costs of other factors are rising, which would of course be side effects or larger inequality.
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2017, 09:43:31 AM »


you are a Jeb!-populist. :-/
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2017, 01:13:36 PM »


low energy! Tongue

redistribution is a good addition to the populist mindset!
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