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pbrower2a
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« on: June 27, 2019, 04:07:53 PM »

Gerrymandering is done to entrench the political reality of the opportune moment, and it is especially effective when the Party with the advantages is consummately ruthless and can turn an even split into a 70-30 edge. 
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2019, 07:08:50 PM »

Let’s put this another way - Suppose Trump gets reelected and gets to appoint a whole lot of new judges in his second term. Do those of you who think some standard could have been made up by the court to determine what’s a partisan Gerrymander (which, like in VRA jurisprudence would most likely be some facts-and-circumstances test nonsense) trust Trump-appointed judges to not strike down Democratic maps while keeping Republican maps?

The courts are better left out of this whole issue.

That is exactly what I see, with the courts involved only in the event of flagrant violations of something so basic as the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (the legislation that enforces the terms of the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments).

I would expect Trump and Republican majorities in both Houses of Congress to find ways in which to disenfranchise voters, such as restoring property qualifications to voting.
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2019, 08:17:32 PM »

F*** it! It's time for Democrats to gerrymander the f*** out of the states they have the ability to. Then a case like this will come back to the Supreme Court and get ruled the other way. It's our only option now. F*** the high road!
Buddy, you already are. Democrats aren’t some pure, peaceful party: if they can do something, they will. Maryland, California, New York, and a dozen other states have been gerrymandered. For literally decades, the Republicans never had a house majority because of gerrymandering.

That being said, this ruling would be much better if not disingenuous in scope, with perhaps an exception for Gorsuch.

California, Maryland, and New York are so predominantly Democratic that Republicans can win few Congressional seats in those states. Maryland has only one natural district  in Appalachia. New York State has some rural areas. California? Republicans lost several  of the few seats that they had, which cannot be attributed to gerrymandering.

The problem with gerrymandering is that Parties end up nominating and electing extremists in marginal districts -- and eventually those extremists lose touch with the mainstream in their districts and get defeated.  
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