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jfern
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« on: September 14, 2015, 03:27:36 PM »

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Naw, no racism there.
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2015, 03:53:31 PM »


Well, to be fair, otherwise the Southern States would be able to inflate their influence by counting slaves as "persons" in the context of drawing Congressional districts. Not having the three-fifths compromise would have strengthened the hand of the slave holding elites.

But the constitution is condoning slavery there.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2015, 09:47:59 PM »


But what were they supposed to do? Just let the Southern States count their slaves and get free House seats?

Don't get me wrong America had a lot of racism in it's founding but the Three-Fifths Compromise if often cited as evidence of this, when the reality is more complicated.

My point is that the Constitution has racism written into it, which proves Sanders' point.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2015, 09:51:00 PM »

On the other hand, there is a bottom line to all of this, and that bottom line is whether or not TODAY the United States of America is a GOOD nation as well as a GREAT nation, and I think that this verdict is equally clear.  This nation was indispensable in successfully ending the Nazi menace and in establishing stability in Europe after over a century of various wars.  If we have been imIt certainly provesperialistic, we have also been benevolent and generous on balance, and the World is a better place BECAUSE the United States of America became its most powerful nation.   This is a consensus view of Americans (or, at least, the vast majority of them) and Presidential candidates who don't adhere to this go down in fames.  There's no call for Howard Zinn or Ward Churchill to lead America.  This is a point on which Bernie Sanders needs to become aware of quickly, or Clinton will trounce him to where he'll become a trivia question.

Just because Sanders is saying this country was founding on racism in the 1700s doesn't mean he doesn't appreciate that it ended the regime that killed his father's family in the 1940s.  In fact, Sanders says the fact that the Nazis won elections is what made him realize how important politics is.
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