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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« on: July 16, 2014, 06:10:58 AM »

Almost any center-right/neocon Republican.

Dear Lord no what on God's green Earth are you talking about that is not how the world WORKS
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2014, 02:01:15 PM »

Almost any center-right/neocon Republican.

Dear Lord no what on God's green Earth are you talking about that is not how the world WORKS
The ideological purity is driving them out of the GOP in droves. 
"Derp neocons and moderates are RINOs and socialists who want to destroy the Constitution!" 
That's the kind of rhetoric that drives folks out of our party.

Prominent 'neocons and moderates' who have been driven out of the party:

  • Jim Jeffords (moderate, not a neocon, and this had a lot to do with constituency issues involving dairy farming; the Senate GOP actually had something of a history of bending over backwards for him--this was also during the period of neocon ascendancy within the party anyway)
  • Lincoln Chafee (moderate, not a neocon)
  • Wendy Davis (I doubt you want to claim her)
  • Arlen Specter (moderate, does he count as a neocon? For some reason I never had a firm grasp of his positions on defense and foreign policy)
  • Lisa Murkowski sort of but not really.

And a bunch of people who either did not hold political office yet (Patrick Murphy) or did not hold political office any more (Arne Carlson).

I will concede that quite a few 'neocons and moderates' have been driven out of Congress by ideological purity trolls, but that's not really the same thing, pernicious as it is.
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Nathan
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2014, 09:18:37 PM »

Almost any center-right/neocon Republican.

Dear Lord no what on God's green Earth are you talking about that is not how the world WORKS
The ideological purity is driving them out of the GOP in droves. 
"Derp neocons and moderates are RINOs and socialists who want to destroy the Constitution!" 
That's the kind of rhetoric that drives folks out of our party.

Prominent 'neocons and moderates' who have been driven out of the party:

  • Jim Jeffords (moderate, not a neocon, and this had a lot to do with constituency issues involving dairy farming; the Senate GOP actually had something of a history of bending over backwards for him--this was also during the period of neocon ascendancy within the party anyway)
  • Lincoln Chafee (moderate, not a neocon)
  • Wendy Davis (I doubt you want to claim her)
  • Arlen Specter (moderate, does he count as a neocon? For some reason I never had a firm grasp of his positions on defense and foreign policy)
  • Lisa Murkowski sort of but not really.

And a bunch of people who either did not hold political office yet (Patrick Murphy) or did not hold political office any more (Arne Carlson).

I will concede that quite a few 'neocons and moderates' have been driven out of Congress by ideological purity trolls, but that's not really the same thing, pernicious as it is.
The keyword is "and."

'And' is also the word that makes the point so stupid. Next to no remotely prominent neocons, including neocons who are also perceived as moderates, have been driven out of the party.
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Nathan
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2014, 08:41:51 AM »

Almost any center-right/neocon Republican.

Dear Lord no what on God's green Earth are you talking about that is not how the world WORKS
The ideological purity is driving them out of the GOP in droves. 
"Derp neocons and moderates are RINOs and socialists who want to destroy the Constitution!" 
That's the kind of rhetoric that drives folks out of our party.

Prominent 'neocons and moderates' who have been driven out of the party:

  • Jim Jeffords (moderate, not a neocon, and this had a lot to do with constituency issues involving dairy farming; the Senate GOP actually had something of a history of bending over backwards for him--this was also during the period of neocon ascendancy within the party anyway)
  • Lincoln Chafee (moderate, not a neocon)
  • Wendy Davis (I doubt you want to claim her)
  • Arlen Specter (moderate, does he count as a neocon? For some reason I never had a firm grasp of his positions on defense and foreign policy)
  • Lisa Murkowski sort of but not really.

And a bunch of people who either did not hold political office yet (Patrick Murphy) or did not hold political office any more (Arne Carlson).

I will concede that quite a few 'neocons and moderates' have been driven out of Congress by ideological purity trolls, but that's not really the same thing, pernicious as it is.
The keyword is "and."

'And' is also the word that makes the point so stupid. Next to no remotely prominent neocons, including neocons who are also perceived as moderates, have been driven out of the party.
They haven't been driven out yet, but they will be if the GOP continues on this track.

And what a tragic, tragic loss they would be, I'm sure.
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