UK General Discussion

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Dan Hodges is just a troll. He gets airtime because he knows media people and because he bashes Miliband (who the media hate).

[Leftbehind]

...and yet I've seen not one senior Labour figure point that out or go at him. Apparently he's resigned his membership over Syria, mind.

Neither Owen Jones or Dan Hodges represent Labour values.

Mores the pity, on the former.

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...and yet I've seen not one senior Labour figure point that out or go at him. Apparently he's resigned his membership over Syria, mind.

Neither Owen Jones or Dan Hodges represent Labour values.

Mores the pity, on the former.

Jones is just as much of an attention seeker as Hodges.

A reincarnated Nye Bevan could come back and stage a coup against Ed's leadership and Owen's column would still be as angst filled as ever.

[Leftbehind]

Couldn't disagree more, I think Jones would be delighted with a Bevanite leader and would back him to the hilt - because unlike Hodges he seems consistent in his principles and not just writing any old sh**t to be controversial. Jones is fairly loyalist in actuality, but admittedly it's become harder to tell as Labour have drifted rightwards. Seems to have been defending Miliband over the last couple of days if you look on his Twitter.

[Lurker]

Dan Hodges is just a troll. He gets airtime because he knows media people and because he bashes Miliband (who the media hate).

His completely hypocritical and self-condradictory comments after his mother attacked Thatcher were quite interesting to read.

[afleitch]

Labour now hinting it wants another vote on Syria. Oh dear.

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Labour now hinting it wants another vote on Syria. Oh dear.

Wasn't that the line all along? Come back when there's more evidence/escalation?

It was Cam who ruled out a second vote.

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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timwigmore/100234233/jesse-norman-went-to-the-same-school-as-his-boss-but-hes-telling-tories-that-hed-be-a-very-different-leader/

For the column inches that've been dedicated to Jesse Norman and him being 'on manoeuvers'  over the last year and knowing nothing about the bloke except that he's an Etonian who's loved by the Tory right, my first impression of him today at PMQs was just that he seems like a creepy guy. Or maybe that's just the attitude he has after just being sacked.

Don't know a think about his ideas or approach to politics, but as leader, he'd play as well as Miliband does on TV.

Of course, not that I think there'll be a leadership challenge in any party before the election.

[YL]

Of course, not that I think there'll be a leadership challenge in any party before the election.

I would suggest that a party whose rating has more than halved from the last election in most polls and whose leadership seems to be busy repudiating the principles that got them a lot of those votes in the first place ought to be considering a leadership challenge, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Phony Moderate]

Yeah, Labour probably can't win a majority with Miliband's current personal numbers.

[Silent Hunter]

Of course, not that I think there'll be a leadership challenge in any party before the election.

I would suggest that a party whose rating has more than halved from the last election in most polls and whose leadership seems to be busy repudiating the principles that got them a lot of those votes in the first place ought to be considering a leadership challenge, but I'm not holding my breath.

Yeah, the Liberal Democrats are in real trouble.

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Of course, not that I think there'll be a leadership challenge in any party before the election.

I would suggest that a party whose rating has more than halved from the last election in most polls and whose leadership seems to be busy repudiating the principles that got them a lot of those votes in the first place ought to be considering a leadership challenge, but I'm not holding my breath.

Yeah, the Liberal Democrats are in real trouble.

Even Farron's not stupid enough to take that poisoned chalice.

[Leftbehind]

Nearly missed this:

"Almost three-quarters believe the UK's energy costs are unreasonable, and 69% said the [energy] firms should be nationalised."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23957608

[Khunanup]

Of course, not that I think there'll be a leadership challenge in any party before the election.

I would suggest that a party whose rating has more than halved from the last election in most polls and whose leadership seems to be busy repudiating the principles that got them a lot of those votes in the first place ought to be considering a leadership challenge, but I'm not holding my breath.

Yeah, the Liberal Democrats are in real trouble.

Out of interest, what do you mean by that (ie, what do you consider he consequences to be in 2015)?

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Of course, not that I think there'll be a leadership challenge in any party before the election.

I would suggest that a party whose rating has more than halved from the last election in most polls and whose leadership seems to be busy repudiating the principles that got them a lot of those votes in the first place ought to be considering a leadership challenge, but I'm not holding my breath.

Yeah, the Liberal Democrats are in real trouble.

Out of interest, what do you mean by that (ie, what do you consider he consequences to be in 2015)?

To cut a long story short, polls are showing that if there was an election tomorrow, they'd receive their lowest share of the vote since 1970 and their leader is one of the most unpopular men in the country.

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Boris: "Even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons."

Someone tell me how this man's considered a serious politician.

[Nhoj]

Boris: "Even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons."

Someone tell me how this man's considered a serious politician.

Wasn't he making apologies for assad just a few weeks ago?

[Silent Hunter]

Boris: "Even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons."

What on Earth was Zyklon B then? While the Nazis never used them on the battlefield or against us (for fear of retaliation), the Japanese certainly did.

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Sarah Teather standing down in 2015.

A likely Labour gain becomes a definite Labour gain.

Teather joins the following as Liberal retirees:
Brooke, Mid Dorest and Poole North (0.6%)
Beith, Berwick-Upon-Tweed (7%)
Bruce, Gordon (13.8%)

[Leftbehind]

Someone actually phased by Clegg/Liberal sell-outs?

[Silent Hunter]

Teather was a major star in the party (especially after the massive swing in the Brent East by-election when she gained it), although her position was looking dodgy in  Brent Central come 2015, IIRC.

Al can help here.

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Teather was a major star in the party (especially after the massive swing in the Brent East by-election when she gained it), although her position was looking dodgy in  Brent Central come 2015, IIRC.

Al can help here.

Nobody'll miss her.

[afleitch]

Teather was a major star in the party (especially after the massive swing in the Brent East by-election when she gained it), although her position was looking dodgy in  Brent Central come 2015, IIRC.

Al can help here.

Nobody'll miss her.

It was her marriage vote that killed her off.

[YL]

Teather was a major star in the party (especially after the massive swing in the Brent East by-election when she gained it), although her position was looking dodgy in  Brent Central come 2015, IIRC.

Al can help here.

Nobody'll miss her.

It was her marriage vote that killed her off.

Yes, looking at the comments on Lib Dem Voice there seems to be a lot of hostility to her because of that, though she's getting some support too.

[Supersonic]

Teather was a major star in the party (especially after the massive swing in the Brent East by-election when she gained it), although her position was looking dodgy in  Brent Central come 2015, IIRC.

Al can help here.

Nobody'll miss her.

It was her marriage vote that killed her off.

I was thinking this.