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Michael Z
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« on: February 14, 2004, 08:23:17 PM »
« edited: February 14, 2004, 08:31:19 PM by Michael Z »

Beware, biased prediction coming up. I hope you can all enjoy it though. Smiley

John Kerry and running mate John Edwards win the 2004 election by a 272-266 margin. Consequently Kerry is the incumbent for 2008 and goes unchallenged (in spite of rumours within some media circles, ie. Drudge and Limbaugh, of a "coup" to install Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee.)

GWB's surprise 2004 defeat resulted in an ideological struggle within the Republican Party between moderates (helmed most noteably by John McCain and Rudolph Giuliani) and neocons (Santorum, Jeb Bush). Basically, the moderates believe that GWB lost the election because he was too right-wing and that only a more centre-right candidate could win an election, whereas the neocons believe quite the opposite - that GWB wasn't right-wing enough. This debate is reflected in the primaries, which reveal a deep divide within the GOP.

Rudolph Giuliani surprises many pundits by declaring that he will not run for President. Many believe this to be a ploy by the moderates to unite behind one candidate and not split their vote. That candidate is John McCain, who, just a few years earlier, many felt to be down and out due to ill health and a fading profile. However, his health problems thankfully behind him, McCain is the candidate many believe to be the most electable. His war record easily parallels Kerry's and his national stature is second to none.

Gov. Jeb Bush, after much dithering, eventually decides to throw his hat in the ring. At a rousing speech in St. Petersburg, FL, Jeb Bush declares his intention to run for President in front of his family, including father George, and of course brother George W. Rick Santorum, who some on the fringe of the GOP believed to have a shot at the nomination, decides not to split the neocon vote and instead endorse Jeb Bush. In fact, most of the endorsements reveal a split within the party - but obviously everybody involved denies such a thing. In the uselectionatlas.org forum, prominent user Jmfcst castigates cheeky British chappie Michael Z for even daring to suggest such a thing.

Other Republicans who feel they have a legitimate shot at challenging Kerry include Lamar Alexander, Elizabeth Dole, Lincoln Chaffee, Roy LaHood, and Jim Talent. However, as the primary season goes underway most of these candidates fall to the wayside and eventually drop out of the race, leaving voters with a clear choice between McCain and Jeb Bush, with many fearing a repeat of the 2000 primaries, which were dogged by fiercely negative campaigning between McCain and George W Bush. Thankfully these fears prove to be unfounded and the race is mainly a clean one.

In what turns out to be the most suspense-filled Republican primaries since 1976, McCain eventually wins... but only by a whisker.

And so the inevitable media speculation starts; who will be his running mate? Attention veers from Alexander to Hagel, E. Dole, Talent, Frist, Perry, and Don Rumsfeld(!). The favourite, however, turns out to be Rudolph Giuliani, who threw all his weight behind McCain during the primaries. Then McCain surprises everyone and chooses Bill Frist, a move no doubt designed to bridge the much-documented gap between moderates and not-so-moderates. Giuliani, word has it, will be rewarded for his loyalty in other ways, with a prominent role within a potential McCain Administration.

A brief scare is endured by Democrats when Howard Dean hints at running as the Green Party candidate. That fear, however, is eventually allayed when Jello Biafra is chosen instead (the Green Party's official line being that the ex-Dead Kennedys singer is a "more electable" candidate than Dean).

In November 2008, McCain/Frist take on Kerry/Edwards. Kerry narrowly wins. However, a second Kerry term is dogged by crisis for reasons of something-or-other (this is where my psychic future-telling abilities fail me), and so in 2012 Hagel/Perry beat Edwards/Ford.
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Michael Z
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2004, 08:50:36 PM »

Nobody has commented on my prediction yet...  sniff, sniff...
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Michael Z
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2004, 08:58:01 PM »
« Edited: February 14, 2004, 08:58:58 PM by Michael Z »

I hope Hillary loses to Rudy in 2006, because then we can get a halfway electable canddiate for 2008.

Why is Hillary Clinton unelectable?

Hillary is far too polarising, even moreso than GWB.

Edit: lol Staples, great minds think alike. Wink
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Michael Z
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2004, 09:08:15 PM »

Nobody has commented on my prediction yet...  sniff, sniff...

I enjoyed it even though you made GWB lose.

Thanks, I liked yours too. Smiley
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Michael Z
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2004, 09:25:48 PM »

Hmmm,

i'm confused by all of these Democrats who say Hillary is too polarizing. Personally, I would vote for her before John Kerry, Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich or Al Sharpton who compromise four of the five remaining Democrats in the primaries. I disagree with her on a host of issues, but I would trust her with our National Security WAY before guys like Kerry or Dean.

The trouble is, it's possible for most people to have lukewarm feelings about the candidates you've listed, but a lot of people actively HATE Hillary with every fibre of their body (moreso than they would with Kerry, Dean, etc). At least that's the impression I'm under.
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Michael Z
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2004, 07:15:42 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2004, 07:22:23 PM by Michael Z »

Some pretty entertaining stuff here.  It's interesting to see Democrats predict the GOP nominee in '08, the field you guys are predicting is pretty pathetic and old school if you ask me.

I might just be getting the wrong end of the stick here, but your tone suggests you seem to think that because of our political affiliation we don't know what the hell we're talking about. But I could be wrong, and I apologise if I am.

Anyway, Dole is a pretty good example of an "old school" candidate getting the nomination. Besides, age shouldn't be a stumbling block - look at Reagan.

Should Bush lose (which, realistically speaking, probably won't happen), the GOP, like any other mainstream political party, will look for the candidate they think is most likely to win; that does not automatically have to be a young candidate.
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