German Elections & Politics

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I've been following the special party convention, and I'm concluding from the emotional speeches that 80% will approve of beginning the coalition talks.

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I've been following the special party convention, and I'm concluding from the emotional speeches that 80% will approve of beginning the coalition talks.

A little under 1/6th of the delegates are young, and considering that groups strong opposition to a renewed grand Coalition, the ceiling for acceptance is probably a little lower.

Strange I got a different take from the speeches. Schultz sounded a tiny bit desperate, and the speeches have been mixed in their support/opposition. I'm also leaning towards agreement right now, but not by such a high margin.

Andrea Nahles, however, sounded very aggressive,as though she wanted to tell every critic of coalition talks: "I know where you live. See you later..."

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I’m a delegate at the conference and I am now 100% certain that the delegates will approve the coalition talks. Andrea Nahles speech really changed the mood in the hall.

Oh, we have a V.I.P. here
Will the vote be secret or will it be like a roll call?

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I’m a delegate at the conference and I am now 100% certain that the delegates will approve the coalition talks. Andrea Nahles speech really changed the mood in the hall.

Oh, we have a V.I.P. here
Will the vote be secret or will it be like a roll call?

There might be a vote to have a secret ballot but I expect that to fail. The delegates will vote by raising their voting cards. If the majority is unclear the counting commission will count each vote.

Majority is not certain. I’m quite surprised.

Wow! You're a fast writer. Or Phoenix is really slow.

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I’m a delegate at the conference and I am now 100% certain that the delegates will approve the coalition talks. Andrea Nahles speech really changed the mood in the hall.

Oh, we have a V.I.P. here
Will the vote be secret or will it be like a roll call?

There might be a vote to have a secret ballot but I expect that to fail. The delegates will vote by raising their voting cards. If the majority is unclear the counting commission will count each vote.

Yeah, just saw it. It's a roll call.

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It's a yes.

362 yes
279 no
1 abstention

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The socialist workers' song folklore at the end was just embarrassing and humiliating. 😡

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The socialist workers' song folklore at the end was just embarrassing and humiliating. 😡

Though it is a tradition to sing it after party conferences I didn’t do it this time

How did you vote, Hermann?

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56% on a card vote? Christ. That is a strikingly low figure.

It is

How did you vote, Hermann?

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If you want to vote against the Groko, you can join the SPD until February 6, 6 o'clock a.m.
This deadline was set by the party executive on Monday.

Beforehand, Kevin Kühnert, the chairman of the Jusos (the youth organization of the SPD), had come under fire after appealing to the public to join the SPD for a ten-spot in order to vote "no" and then to leave the party after two months.

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Clickable new map of the 2017 federal election results by town (there are 11.000):

https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/gemeindekarte-bundestagswahl-2017

I think this is the first map of its kind.

White = no inhabitants.

Also do not forget the +/- zoom sign at the bottom right, to show results for small towns.

What the  is wrong with the people living in Norderfriedrichskoog (39.3% FDP) and Fredeburg (51.8% Greens). I live in Schleswig-Holstein, but I have no clue why it is such a strong Greens and FDP stronghold.

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Question for German posters:

Why are these uninhabitated areas shown in white ?

Are these areas not part of a community, like in the US where unincorporated areas are simply shown as uninhabitated ?

Here in Austria, uninhabitated areas are still part of a town and not shown seperately on a map.

One example: The white spot east of Munich. Those are three forests: Anzinger, Egelhartinger and Ebesberger forests.
On Wikipedia maps, they are colored in dark gray:



Wikipedia says they are unincorporated areas and they belong to the Free State of Bavaria:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzinger_Forst
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eglhartinger_Forst
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebersberger_Forst

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The white spots underneath Munich are the Perlacher Forst, the Grünwalder Forst and the Forstenrieder Park. They are all unincorporated areas according to Wikipedia, too.

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The white spot in southeastern Bavaria, which is literally surrounding an isle is the lake Chiemsee, and the isle within is a community called Chiemsee.

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The white stripe in Southern Lower Saxony is the unincorporated census area Harz within Goslar County.



That map reminds me a bit of Alaska.

PS: I didn't know that Braunlage is divided into three unconnected parts plus dozen slivers. This is the most "Americanized" German county-community map I've ever seen.

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The big white stripe in Northern Hesse is the unincorporated estate district Reinhardswald within Kassel County:



The smaller white spot in northern Hesse is the unincorporated estate district Kaufunger Wald within Werra-Meißner County:

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Question for German posters:

Why are these uninhabitated areas shown in white ?

Are these areas not part of a community, like in the US where unincorporated areas are simply shown as uninhabitated ?

Here in Austria, uninhabitated areas are still part of a town and not shown seperately on a map.

Here is a full list of all unincorporated ares in Germany:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeindefreies_Gebiet

There are 225 unincorporated land areas and 4 unincorporated water areas (all of which lie in Bavaria) in Germany. Only two are inhabited: Osterheide (Heidekreis County) and Lohheide (Celle County), both of which lie in Lower Saxony; that's why they aren't shown as white blobs on the map.

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Question for German posters:

Why are these uninhabitated areas shown in white ?

Are these areas not part of a community, like in the US where unincorporated areas are simply shown as uninhabitated ?

Here in Austria, uninhabitated areas are still part of a town and not shown seperately on a map.

I have found some white spots in Schleswig-Hoistein that are not unincorporated areas:
Wiedenborstel and Auufer (both Steinburg County) and Tackesdorf (Rendsburg-Eckernförde County).
But I don't know why there aren't any results delivered for these villages.

The two big white blobs in that Land are Sachsenwald (the largest contiguous woodlands within SH) and the forestry estate district Buchholz (comprising the Segeberg state forest), both of which are unincorporated areas.

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Soon, we're gonna have a grand coalition between AfD and Greens...

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Projektion: Wenn am nächsten Sonntag wirklich Bundestagswahl wäre ...

What a weird way of phrasing that. Even in the (impossible) hypothetical, the pollster feels bound to respect election law.

I don't understand your criticism. That's what German pollsters have been asking their pollees since 800.

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The GRAND Coalition has no majority anymore ... (47.5% vs. 48.5%):

I wonder what the first-vote map would look like, especially regarding the number of direct mandates for the SPD in the Ruhrpott and for the AfD in the East. i even think the AfD could win some constituencies in the Ruhrpott, especially in Essen (former Social Democrat Guido Reil).

Furthermore, I'm a bit apprehensive of the largeness of the Bundestag under such a result; our parliament could become bigger than China's...

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I think this graphic says it all. Thank you, St. Martin!

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But yes: most German firms have strong and observable house biases.

The founder and CEO of Forsa, for example, is Manfred Güllner, who is not only a member of the SPD, but also belongs to the neoliberal Seeheimer Kreis wing of his party.

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Anyway - decent chance I might have a bit of fun with the municipality stuff posted a few days ago. Nice to have all that data in one place...

Yes, I love that map.
It's nice to see in how many Bavarian municipalities the AfD came second. This year's state election will become amusing...

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Maybe the strong FDP score in Norderfriedrichskoog has something to do with it's historical status as a tax haven? Mailboxes can't vote, but it's rather suspicious that a small village which used to be a corporate tax haven votes for the most pro-business party in a landslide .

Norderfriedrichskoog's election result's are astonishing, anyway...

Out of the 28 voters, most did not only vote for the FPD, they didn't even give the SPD one single vote.
If the federal trend continues, the SPD will be the first party to get negative votes.

FDP CDU AfD Linke Grüne Freie Wähler

39,3 % 32,1 % 10,7 % 7,1 % 7,1 % 3,6 %

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