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« Reply #1275 on: December 01, 2017, 10:57:13 PM »

1 min each debate begins on Rubio-Lee.

Rubio already roasting the no votes for picking corporations over kids.

Whenever Rubio speaks....everyone looks around to see where that noise is coming from. That little manlet
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« Reply #1276 on: December 01, 2017, 10:57:55 PM »

Ugh. I was hoping Democrats wouldn't do this, that they would treat any positive change as a good thing.

No, but instead, they all vote against, rather than passing it and putting pressure on McConnell.

I mean, in doing this, they are effectively helping lower taxes for corporations by 1% and refusing to increase the child tax credit.
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« Reply #1277 on: December 01, 2017, 10:59:13 PM »

Rubio-Lee is getting killed
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« Reply #1278 on: December 01, 2017, 10:59:53 PM »

After the Senate bill passes what the Senate and House has to work out in reconciliation , for personal income tax are

1) Mortgage deduction cap of $1m (Senate) vs 500K (House) - I am backing the House on this one
2) Different rates and threshold - I am backing the Senate on this one mostly because the Senate rates and threshold closes the marriage penalty more aggressively
3) Medical deduction which is gone in the House but not Senate - I am backing the House  on this one
4) AMT which is gone under the House version and stays in the Senate version with higher thresholds - I am backing Senate on this one - AMT acts more like a flat tax which I support
5) House Family flexibility Credit which does not exist in the Senate version - Mostly base the Senate.  Do not see the reason for this
6) Standard deductions slightly higher in the House version - I am mostly neutral
7) House Bubble tax for taxable income above $1 million/$1.2 million - I am for the Senate not just because I am affected but that this is a con job by the House.  If they want to take higher incomes more just increase the top marginal rate.  This is a attempt to get more revenue without telling it like it is.
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« Reply #1279 on: December 01, 2017, 11:00:29 PM »

The breakdown of Republicans voting for this doesn't seem to be on ideological lines at all
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« Reply #1280 on: December 01, 2017, 11:03:25 PM »

Brown 1854: (60 to pass)

46 - 49

Party lines.

Final margin: 48-52
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« Reply #1281 on: December 01, 2017, 11:03:46 PM »

What is Blunt doing voting for this thing? This is a complete virtue-signal.


If Democrats had voted for it, they wouldn't have been able to do this.

And Cotton too...
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« Reply #1282 on: December 01, 2017, 11:05:14 PM »

28-72 for Rubio. Ouch.
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« Reply #1283 on: December 01, 2017, 11:06:04 PM »

Amendment fails 28-72 with centrist Democrats and a random sprinkling of Republicans (from moderates to Cruz) voting for it.

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« Reply #1284 on: December 01, 2017, 11:06:42 PM »

What is Blunt doing voting for this thing? This is a complete virtue-signal.


If Democrats had voted for it, they wouldn't have been able to do this.

And Cotton too...

Is the reason Dems are voting against this that they don't want to vote yea on anything that will likely be on the final bill that gets passed? Or are they trying to deny Rubio any positive accomplishments before he makes an inevitable Presidential run in, like, 12 years?
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« Reply #1285 on: December 01, 2017, 11:06:53 PM »

Wait, are people voting again?? I thought we were at 100?
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« Reply #1286 on: December 01, 2017, 11:07:48 PM »

What is Blunt doing voting for this thing? This is a complete virtue-signal.


If Democrats had voted for it, they wouldn't have been able to do this.

And Cotton too...

Is the reason Dems are voting against this that they don't want to vote yea on anything that will likely be on the final bill that gets passed? Or are they trying to deny Rubio any positive accomplishments before he makes an inevitable Presidential run in, like, 12 years?

I'm guessing the first.
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« Reply #1287 on: December 01, 2017, 11:08:20 PM »

Final vote 29-71 on Rubio-Lee

Now commencing 1 minute each debate on Menendez motion to commit.
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« Reply #1288 on: December 01, 2017, 11:08:52 PM »

Rubio is 29-71. It appears C-SPAN was miscounting. Next up is Menendez motion to send bill back to committee.
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« Reply #1289 on: December 01, 2017, 11:09:00 PM »

CBO finding: Tax bill makes tax code more progressive.

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« Reply #1290 on: December 01, 2017, 11:09:20 PM »

Lmao.
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« Reply #1291 on: December 01, 2017, 11:09:31 PM »

Final vote 29-71 on Rubio-Lee

Now commencing 1 minute each debate on Menendez motion to commit.

Menendez is arguing for restoration of SALT deduction.
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« Reply #1292 on: December 01, 2017, 11:10:32 PM »

Final vote 29-71 on Rubio-Lee

Now commencing 1 minute each debate on Menendez motion to commit.

Menendez is arguing for restoration of SALT deduction.

Wait, the NJ Chamber of Commerce opposed this bill? Is that true?
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« Reply #1293 on: December 01, 2017, 11:11:42 PM »

Final vote 29-71 on Rubio-Lee

Now commencing 1 minute each debate on Menendez motion to commit.

Menendez is arguing for restoration of SALT deduction.

Wait, the NJ Chamber of Commerce opposed this bill? Is that true?

Just the SALT provision, I would guess
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« Reply #1294 on: December 01, 2017, 11:12:49 PM »

Rubio is 29-71. It appears C-SPAN was miscounting. Next up is Menendez motion to send bill back to committee.

Went over like little Marcos primary performance
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« Reply #1295 on: December 01, 2017, 11:15:34 PM »

Why the f**k didn't Democrats vote for this? It's not like the bill won't still pass anyway.
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« Reply #1296 on: December 01, 2017, 11:16:12 PM »

Fun Side Effect of Rubio-Lee not being supported by Democrats: Heller flipped to yes at the end of the vote. Gets perhaps some slight ammo for reelection.

If Democrats had supported, he may not have been able to do that.
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« Reply #1297 on: December 01, 2017, 11:16:37 PM »

Why the f**k didn't Democrats vote for this? It's not like the bill won't still pass anyway.

EXACTLY!
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« Reply #1298 on: December 01, 2017, 11:21:23 PM »

Mike Pence on way to Chamber.
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« Reply #1299 on: December 01, 2017, 11:22:24 PM »

46-50 on commitment. Party lines.
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