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Wiz in Wis
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« on: April 06, 2016, 10:57:01 PM »

If Bernie Sanders or his supporters really thought they had a shot at the nomination, they wouldn't need to go negative on Hillary, would they? They know she's favored in the next round of states and want to take her down a notch. What's missing is that they assume she's been attacking him full strength for the past few months. That's a pretty clear miscalculation.

Frankly, the gun issue is pretty terrible optics for him. He's literally spent his entire career bashing "corporate America" for X, Y, and Z... for him to jump to the GUN MANUFACTURER'S defense makes him look really shady. And pretending that the former Secretary of State, NY Senator, First Lady of the US is "unqualified" is an unforced error too... no every question he will get for two days will start with him on the defense. He never really had much of an opening, and now he's going to be off message for at least two days about this comment. Not smart.
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2016, 11:11:27 PM »

If Bernie Sanders or his supporters really thought they had a shot at the nomination, they wouldn't need to go negative on Hillary, would they? They know she's favored in the next round of states and want to take her down a notch. What's missing is that they assume she's been attacking him full strength for the past few months. That's a pretty clear miscalculation.

Frankly, the gun issue is pretty terrible optics for him. He's literally spent his entire career bashing "corporate America" for X, Y, and Z... for him to jump to the GUN MANUFACTURER'S defense makes him look really shady. And pretending that the former Secretary of State, NY Senator, First Lady of the US is "unqualified" is an unforced error too... no every question he will get for two days will start with him on the defense. He never really had much of an opening, and now he's going to be off message for at least two days about this comment. Not smart.

Hillary implied he wasn't qualified first.

No, she was asked if he was qualified and she didn't run to his defense. She didn't praise him. She "implied" that he had work to do understanding foreign policy. That's hardly calling him "unqualified." But the larger issue is that he does sound, frankly, out of his depth on some issues. So her saying so is essentially confirming a suspicion. For him to turn around and basically say "I know you are but what am I" is an unforced tactical error. He sounds stupid. She's clearly qualified. He chose a dumb line of attack. The fact that the liberal media folks are all bringing it up is not because it looks nasty, but because it makes him look clueless. The folks at MSNBC, Talking Points Memo, Daily Kos are all saying "Really? That's your next move?" It's an unforced error. And frankly, by bringing it up again, it all but invites the media to dig into his foreign policy positions more, bring up his past statements on Cuba, Nicaragua, the USSR... It even comes of as veiled sexism! Not how he wants to spend the next 48 hours.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2016, 11:19:41 PM »

If Bernie Sanders or his supporters really thought they had a shot at the nomination, they wouldn't need to go negative on Hillary, would they? They know she's favored in the next round of states and want to take her down a notch. What's missing is that they assume she's been attacking him full strength for the past few months. That's a pretty clear miscalculation.

Frankly, the gun issue is pretty terrible optics for him. He's literally spent his entire career bashing "corporate America" for X, Y, and Z... for him to jump to the GUN MANUFACTURER'S defense makes him look really shady. And pretending that the former Secretary of State, NY Senator, First Lady of the US is "unqualified" is an unforced error too... no every question he will get for two days will start with him on the defense. He never really had much of an opening, and now he's going to be off message for at least two days about this comment. Not smart.

Hillary implied he wasn't qualified first.

No, she was asked if he was qualified and she didn't run to his defense. She didn't praise him. She "implied" that he had work to do understanding foreign policy. That's hardly calling him "unqualified." But the larger issue is that he does sound, frankly, out of his depth on some issues. So her saying so is essentially confirming a suspicion. For him to turn around and basically say "I know you are but what am I" is an unforced tactical error. He sounds stupid. She's clearly qualified. He chose a dumb line of attack. The fact that the liberal media folks are all bringing it up is not because it looks nasty, but because it makes him look clueless. The folks at MSNBC, Talking Points Memo, Daily Kos are all saying "Really? That's your next move?" It's an unforced error. And frankly, by bringing it up again, it all but invites the media to dig into his foreign policy positions more, bring up his past statements on Cuba, Nicaragua, the USSR... It even comes of as veiled sexism! Not how he wants to spend the next 48 hours.

The Hillary campaign already said they were going to disqualify him, and then she clearly insinuated he wasn't qualified to that question.

So what, Univision will air more out of context clips about Bernie?

Oh my god... she was asked if he was unqualified. She did not say he was, then he LIED by misquoting her. It's pretty clear he's flailing and this will not help him one iota. First rule of getting out of a hole... stop digging!
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2016, 11:46:28 PM »

Look, lets be honest... this won't affect the general one way or the other... but the statement itself is clearly laughably off base. She didn't say what he thought she did... at best she refused to defend his credentials. To then turn around and make a pretty clearly untrue claim is a political mistake. It will throw him off message for a few days, and it will rile up Hillary's supporters just when he needed them to be dispirited. It was dumb. Admit you're dude whiffed. Swing and a miss. Other baseball analogy.

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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2016, 11:53:44 PM »

That's right, DFB.  The hacks have been insinuating that every Sanders supporter is a youthful, unrealistic conspiracy theorist with no conception of how the world really works.

But in actuality, millions of people are supporting Bernie Sanders because they see exactly how the world really works and it's pretty damn obvious that Hillary Clinton is emblematic of this problem.  She is no antidote.  The pearl clutchers have gotten increasingly desperate, they can't seem to figure out if Sanders is a crazy right-winger in love with the NRA or if he's going to make us all line up for bread.  Well, that's cute.  When you stand for nothing, you fall very easily.  Hillary Clinton is a disaster and she very well could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this November.  How dare she act incredulous at having to answer for taking funding from the gun lobby, for taking funding from fossil fuel lobbyists, for taking millions of dollars from Wall Street vultures.  She is an absolute disgrace.  She should own up to the fact that she is a crony and run with her support for Reaganomics. 

Enough with the lies.

We're so sick of them.

By this standard, nearly every Democrat in Congress, including Elizabeth Warren, is a disgrace. As is President Obama, Joe Biden, Al Franken. They've all taken money from people who work at big banks, gun manufacturers, etc. Hell, even Bernie has taken money from people at Lockheed Martin and WalMart. To insinuate that every Democrat is tainted by every dollar that came from every person who works for an industry that is distasteful moronic. By the same standard, we should assume that Hillary is certain to be good for Gays, because she's taken money from the HRC, good for the environment because shes taken money from the League of Conservation Voters, good for Teachers because of unions... etc. It takes a lot of money to run for president. She clearly doesnt have the time to look at every single donor and determine who gets what kind of kickback.. they'd be mutually exclusive 90% of the time!
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2016, 10:26:05 AM »

That's at least one day where he's now on the defense for no reason other than his inability to keep his ego in check. God, he's so emotional. He's probably not really ready to be president. He should wait for his turn.  Why is he stuck in the pocket of "Big Gun." Why won't he return the tens of thousands of dollars he's taken from people who work for oil and gas companies! We shouldn't let his ambition to be president tear the Democratic Party apart.

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