To clarify, the DOJ is targeting the fossil fuel industry which has intentionally lied about climate change, thereby killing millions of people and destroying entire countries, not people in general with suicidal environmental views.
It typically begins with the least sympathetic characters. "Won't anyone please think of the oil companies"? Really?
And as to the second, is that a serious question?
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Yes, as there are many different levels of "climate change skepticism" ranging from "the earth isn't warming" to "the warming isn't human-made" to "it is human-made but is temporary/not a serious threat/possibly beneficial" to "it is a threat but not worth fighting economically" etc.
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Well then I am using the broad and expansive definition that applies to
anyone who doesn't believe that human beings are the main culprits of the warming we have seen since the industrial revolution, especially in the last few decades, and who believe that we do not have to re-order our entire society and economy to fight it.
And who do not believe that this warming is unprecedented. [/quote]
What is it with this view that climate deniers have that saying "The climate has always been changing" is remotely controversial or that it somehow proves their point? It's like saying "Racism has always existed, therefore Donald Trump will never be President!"[/quote]
What the hell? Are you really making a comparison between climate skepticism and racism?[/quote]
Uh, no? I'm not sure how you got that from my post. I was saying that just because something has been going on for a long time, doesn't mean it can't take a sudden and dangerous turn. And it's not like previous climate changes have been great for all living species.
Then you must have a long memory. I don't even remember making that post. Is this from ten years ago or so? [/quote]
The idea that anonymous posters in their teens and twenties think they know more and better than leading pundits and pollsters is laughable indeed.
But anonymous posters clearly know more than pretty much all climate scientists.