Who won the Debate?

[The Vorlon]

My "gut" reaction is this could be a Gore/Bush 1st debate scenario..

I think Biden won on the merits, he had his attack lines honed more effectively.  He was also an interrupting arrogant snarly prick who kept butting in.....

I wonder how "ordinary folks" will view this?

I am sure the media will declare Biden the winner, I also wonder what the polls will say...

Historical tidbit...

Dan Quayle absolutely hammered Gore in the 1992 VP debate.. helped lots didn't it?

[The Vorlon]

CNN 48% Ryan 44% Biden. Biden did well on substance and enthusiasm but tried too hard.

Roughly how I saw things.....

The REAL debate now is how this get spun in the media...  Tomorrow night I wonder if the story is Biden the Buffoon, or Biden the aggressor.....?

At minimum, I think Biden did his job to stop the bleeding, the Dem base will like what he did... even if his buffoonery hurts with independents at the margin, the increased enthusiasm in the base may make up for it...

Not surprising the CBS poll has Biden winning by a ra^ther large margin of 50 to 31....