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« Reply #1725 on: February 24, 2022, 12:56:11 AM »
Additional unverified reports of a larger number of Russian aircraft shot down
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« Reply #1726 on: February 24, 2022, 12:56:46 AM »

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« Reply #1727 on: February 24, 2022, 12:57:22 AM »
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I have been extremely critical of Zelensky, but he has impressed me a great deal in the last 24 hours. Even if I would preferred Tymoshenko or Poroshenko.




We are coming Father Volodymyr!

Except we're not.

The Ukrainian people one would hope, are.
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« Reply #1728 on: February 24, 2022, 12:57:48 AM »
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« Reply #1729 on: February 24, 2022, 12:58:41 AM »


Is he referring to the missile attacks on cities/airports, or anything else that happened near the Polish border?
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« Reply #1730 on: February 24, 2022, 01:00:43 AM »
Quote from: 👁️👁️ on February 24, 2022, 12:58:41 AM

Is he referring to the missile attacks on cities/airports, or anything else that happened near the Polish border?

Likely missile attacks.
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« Reply #1731 on: February 24, 2022, 01:01:36 AM »
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« Reply #1732 on: February 24, 2022, 01:03:39 AM »
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« Reply #1733 on: February 24, 2022, 01:03:54 AM »
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« Reply #1734 on: February 24, 2022, 01:04:21 AM »
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i despise china
If real sanctions are adopted, China stands to gain a lot of business since 10% of Russian imports come from the EU or US.

Russia becomes a vessel state for China.

Great for China, but for Russia.
According to the CIA world factbook 20% of Russian imports and 14% of Russian exports are already with China, making it Russia's top trade partner.
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« Reply #1735 on: February 24, 2022, 01:04:44 AM »
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Ukraine’s Emergency Management Agency says the national government has lost control of its first two settlements today: the towns of Milove and Gorodishche.
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« Reply #1736 on: February 24, 2022, 01:04:51 AM »
Anybody else leaning towards the concept that Russia is moving towards a full scale invasion and occupation?

Could be a great Putin bluff, but why go all out unless you are looking for the best position on the chessboard?
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« Reply #1737 on: February 24, 2022, 01:06:03 AM »
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« Reply #1738 on: February 24, 2022, 01:07:09 AM »
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Anyone who spent the last month lecturing us that the invasion was CIA propaganda and a nothing burger needs to apologize.

Never really lectured but I was skeptical of our intelligence agencies after the Russian bounties stuff in Afghanistan.
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« Reply #1739 on: February 24, 2022, 01:07:52 AM »
Quote from: Ferguson97 on February 24, 2022, 01:03:54 AM


I don't think that video is legit unless the shootdown happened hours ago. It's already been on twitter for hours with the claim that it was a Ukrainian UAV that was shot down.
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« Reply #1740 on: February 24, 2022, 01:07:53 AM »
Quote from: NOVA Green on February 24, 2022, 01:04:51 AM
Anybody else leaning towards the concept that Russia is moving towards a full scale invasion and occupation?

Could be a great Putin bluff, but why go all out unless you are looking for the best position on the chessboard?

Yes it certainly seems like they are trying to take over the country in full.
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« Reply #1741 on: February 24, 2022, 01:08:30 AM »
Quote from: NOVA Green on February 24, 2022, 01:04:51 AM
Anybody else leaning towards the concept that Russia is moving towards a full scale invasion and occupation?

Could be a great Putin bluff, but why go all out unless you are looking for the best position on the chessboard?

There is no possible case that it is limited to Donetsk/Luhansk, given that we have video of troops crossing from Belarus into Northern Ukraine etc, which is nowhere near.

It is possible that Putin may not want to occupy 100% of Ukraine all the way to the Polish border, but it is clearly not some small portion of it that he has in mind.
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« Reply #1742 on: February 24, 2022, 01:10:06 AM »
Quote from: NOVA Green on February 24, 2022, 01:04:51 AM
Anybody else leaning towards the concept that Russia is moving towards a full scale invasion and occupation?
Yes. Ukraine will no longer be a sovereign country from here on out. Russia will control and own it. NATO will ensure that Russia faces massive punishments for doing this, but they won't send in troops to actually stop it from happening.
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« Reply #1743 on: February 24, 2022, 01:10:42 AM »
Quote from: 👁️👁️ on February 24, 2022, 01:06:03 AM


Yeah, we can't forget this is Russia we're talking about. They weren't exactly 'precise' in their shelling of Grozny either, so unfortunately I anticipate more of this as they exhaust their supply of cruise missiles.
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« Reply #1744 on: February 24, 2022, 01:11:11 AM »
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It could be that Putin wants to use the status of Luhansk and Donestsk to push the border up to the Dniper, thereby leaving a rump Western Ukrainian state with Kyiv still as it's capital while swallowing up the rest of Ukraine. This is just speculation though and Putin's aims are included in the fog of war.

Edit: On second thought, I can't see Putin pushing up to the Dniper and not annexing Kiev even if it's not the same bank of the Dniper.
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« Reply #1745 on: February 24, 2022, 01:11:28 AM »
May every Russian  Soldier who enters the Ukraine catch a bullet through the eye socket.  Every. God. Damned. One.

There, I said it.
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« Reply #1746 on: February 24, 2022, 01:11:41 AM »


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« Reply #1747 on: February 24, 2022, 01:12:14 AM »


5 planes, 1 chopper confirmed
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« Reply #1748 on: February 24, 2022, 01:12:39 AM »
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May every Russian  Soldier who enters the Ukraine catch a bullet through the eye socket.  Every. God. Damned. One.

There, I said it.
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« Reply #1749 on: February 24, 2022, 01:13:51 AM »


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