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IceSpear
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« on: October 16, 2017, 01:48:17 PM »

Huh, sounds as smug as all the Dems wanting to face Trump or Cruz.

Trump has already beaten Clinton though.

By a Deus Ex Comeyina and an overall 3 million vote loss, sure. No guarantee he'll land the correct states to get over the line.


If the Comey letter was the reason she lost then that's sad because Trump faced a million tougher things than she did (not even including the self inflicted wounds). You're like an 18-0 NFL team who blames the ref for losing the Super Bowl.

The difference is the Comey letter was the last major event to happen in the election, and Americans have the attention span of a goldfish. If the Comey letter and Access Hollywood tape switched dates, you'd be looking at President Clinton and Majority Leader Schumer. So congrats on lucking out with timing.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2017, 02:29:01 PM »

The difference is the Comey letter was the last major event to happen in the election, and Americans have the attention span of a goldfish. If the Comey letter and Access Hollywood tape switched dates, you'd be looking at President Clinton and Majority Leader Schumer. So congrats on lucking out with timing.

Trump was getting hit hard the last month with fake sexual assault accusations, people pretending to care about his "I'll keep you in suspense" line, etc. etc.

All we heard in the last 30 days of the election was how Trump was a sore loser; that the election can't be rigged or hacked; that her ground game and data operation was unstoppable; etc. etc. The Comey letter was ENTIRELY her fault anyway.

Let's not rewrite history and pretend Trump had all these advantages. If she lost simply because of a letter then she was never meant to win.

Trump was simply the superior candidate.

Yes, he was getting hit hard. Yes, Hillary had tons of advantages. And yes, the Access Hollywood tape was in October as well. But the point was the Comey letter was the final substantial event to influence the election, therefore it had the most impact. Americans have a notoriously short attention span, and even those that don't are still very prone to recency bias.

This isn't just my opinion by the way. There was major movement in the polls, in both private and public polling, after the Comey letter was released.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2017, 03:42:51 PM »

The difference is the Comey letter was the last major event to happen in the election, and Americans have the attention span of a goldfish. If the Comey letter and Access Hollywood tape switched dates, you'd be looking at President Clinton and Majority Leader Schumer. So congrats on lucking out with timing.

Trump was getting hit hard the last month with fake sexual assault accusations, people pretending to care about his "I'll keep you in suspense" line, etc. etc.

All we heard in the last 30 days of the election was how Trump was a sore loser; that the election can't be rigged or hacked; that her ground game and data operation was unstoppable; etc. etc. The Comey letter was ENTIRELY her fault anyway.

Let's not rewrite history and pretend Trump had all these advantages. If she lost simply because of a letter then she was never meant to win.

Trump was simply the superior candidate.

Yes, he was getting hit hard. Yes, Hillary had tons of advantages. And yes, the Access Hollywood tape was in October as well. But the point was the Comey letter was the final substantial event to influence the election, therefore it had the most impact. Americans have a notoriously short attention span, and even those that don't are still very prone to recency bias.

This isn't just my opinion by the way. There was major movement in the polls, in both private and public polling, after the Comey letter was released.

After all that happened in the election all it took to take her down was a letter?

Trump had to go through a million times more things (not including self inflicted wounds).

If she didn't want the Comey letter to be released she should've

a) Dump Huma Abedin (or make sure in 2013 she dumps Weiner)

b) NOT SET UP A PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER and then delete 33,000 emails

A million more things and self inflicted wounds that were already down the memory hole by election day. Whether or not the Comey letter was her fault is immaterial to the discussion anyway. The point is, if it didn't happen or happened earlier, she would've won.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2017, 03:59:07 PM »

A million more things and self inflicted wounds that were already down the memory hole by election day. Whether or not the Comey letter was her fault is immaterial to the discussion anyway. The point is, if it didn't happen or happened earlier, she would've won.

If people forgot the Access Hollywood tape and the dozen accusers by election night then America needs to be a dictatorship because the American people would be more stupid than a goldfish.

I'm glad we've reached a level of agreement here. Smiley Yay for bipartisanship!
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IceSpear
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2017, 10:15:55 PM »

Clinton is a weak candidate and Democrats know it-they won't want her to run again. Literally the only people who want her to run again are Trump supporters.

I want her to run again. Smiley I acknowledge I'm in a deep minority though.
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