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« Reply #575 on: September 09, 2020, 12:19:11 PM »

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/georgia-secretary-state-alleges-1000-cases-double-voting/story?id=72877190

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Georgia's top election official said Tuesday that there were up to 1,000 potential instances of voters casting two ballots -- one by absentee ballot and one in person on election day -- across about 100 counties during the June presidential and statewide primaries and the August runoff elections.

"Let me be clear: It is a felony to double vote in Georgia, and we prosecute. ... A double voter knows exactly what they're doing, diluting the votes of each and every voter ... that follows the law. Those that make the choice to game the system are breaking the law, and as secretary of state, I will not tolerate it," Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, said, adding that his office will work to prevent this from happening in November, but not detailing exactly how he plans to do that.


Raffensperger said that his office will be turning the suspected cases over to the state attorney general, local district attorneys and also federal prosecuting attorneys, should they want to take on these cases. He called double voting a "serious felony," noting that if convicted, voters who cast two ballots face a minimum sentence of one year in prison, and a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison, plus up to a $100,000 fine.
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« Reply #576 on: September 09, 2020, 01:55:35 PM »

Regardless of how this thing turns out, Osoff has turned out to be a surprisingly strong recruit.  I mean, the #WeakCandidateOsoff stuff was always silly, but it sure looks like he's basically doing everything right and then some. 
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« Reply #577 on: September 09, 2020, 02:22:09 PM »

I never bought into #WeakCandidateOssoff. I think he’s a pretty good candidate. I remember rating this race Tilt D (in my signature). It’s a weak Tilt R now but if Biden wins GA by more than 1.5%, Perdue would probably lose. His crossover support seems weak.
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« Reply #578 on: September 09, 2020, 02:33:29 PM »

Regardless of how this thing turns out, Osoff has turned out to be a surprisingly strong recruit.  I mean, the #WeakCandidateOsoff stuff was always silly, but it sure looks like he's basically doing everything right and then some.  

That assumption was/is probably based on his loss in 2017 and suspicion whether a young white guy could turn out enough African Americans to vote for him. He definitely needs strong black turnout to have a chance. Maybe having Biden/Harris and Warnock running on the same ticket helps as well.

Still believe Trump and Perdue will narrowly pull it off though. But wish I get proven wrong in two months.
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« Reply #579 on: September 10, 2020, 10:24:57 AM »

Ossoff certainly does appear to have learned from his 2017 defeat, which is obviously a very good sign.
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« Reply #580 on: September 10, 2020, 02:06:30 PM »

Ossof is definitely underrated. I really think hell get 50
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« Reply #581 on: September 10, 2020, 03:02:30 PM »

Although one write-in candidate qualified for the Loeffler race, none did so here. Now that the deadline has passed, does this mean there won't be a write-in space on the ballot? That would reduce the chances of a runoff occurring.
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« Reply #582 on: September 10, 2020, 03:03:57 PM »

I think the chances of a runoff here are overestimated. I doubt Hazel (the Libertarian) gets more than 1%, and he's the only third-party candidate on the ballot.
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« Reply #583 on: September 14, 2020, 10:21:50 PM »

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« Reply #584 on: September 15, 2020, 02:02:23 AM »

Although one write-in candidate qualified for the Loeffler race, none did so here. Now that the deadline has passed, does this mean there won't be a write-in space on the ballot? That would reduce the chances of a runoff occurring.

There is a write-in space, actually. This is from the sample ballot:

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« Reply #585 on: September 15, 2020, 02:51:29 AM »

There's always a write-in space for every contest in GA, regardless of who is contesting it or if there are any valid write-in candidates. I always take the extra time to write-in "Democrat" in protest for every uncontested race.
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« Reply #586 on: October 06, 2020, 06:13:21 AM »

Yeah, Perdue ain't up 5-7

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« Reply #587 on: October 06, 2020, 09:24:32 AM »

I think they're worried.  I've suddenly been getting a ton of anti-Ossoff mailers.
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« Reply #588 on: October 06, 2020, 10:31:54 AM »
« Edited: October 06, 2020, 12:38:40 PM by We Live in Black and White »

With how bad Georgia is looking for Trump, they'd better be worried.
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« Reply #589 on: October 06, 2020, 11:29:33 AM »

With how bad Georgia is looking for Trump, they'd better be worried,

They're worried but it looks like the campaign has gone all in on PA WI AZ FL

They've totally stopped worrying about he periphery states likes IA OH GA TX because they can't afford to compete there. The campaign only has resources for the tipping points
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« Reply #590 on: October 06, 2020, 12:57:44 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2020, 05:17:38 AM by wbrocks67 »

With how bad Georgia is looking for Trump, they'd better be worried,

They're worried but it looks like the campaign has gone all in on PA WI AZ FL

They've totally stopped worrying about he periphery states likes IA OH GA TX because they can't afford to compete there. The campaign only has resources for the tipping points

The problem with that is only AZ has a senate race. So by default if Trump gives up on IA, GA, and TX, that's good for Greenfield, Warnock, Ossoff, Hegar, etc
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« Reply #591 on: October 06, 2020, 03:43:26 PM »

Perdue is definitely suffering from Trump being cash strapped right now.
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« Reply #592 on: October 06, 2020, 04:40:35 PM »

With how bad Georgia is looking for Trump, they'd better be worried,

They're worried but it looks like the campaign has gone all in on PA WI AZ FL

They've totally stopped worrying about he periphery states likes IA OH GA TX because they can't afford to compete there. The campaign only has resources for the tipping points

The problem with that is only AZ has a senate race. So by default if Trump gives up on IA, GA, and TX, that's good for Greenfield, Perdue, Ossoff, Hegar, etc

I totally agree, however I think the big thing is, Trump couldn't care less about the senate. He's worried about his own election and he doesn't care if democrats get supermajorities as long as he wins

He took a bunch of money that house Republicans raised and then refused to help them out when they had no money
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« Reply #593 on: October 12, 2020, 06:04:10 AM »

Perdue and Ossoff are set to debate this afternoon.

https://www.startribune.com/perdue-ossoff-set-for-1st-georgia-senate-debate/572711161/
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« Reply #594 on: October 13, 2020, 01:39:38 AM »

In first debate, Ossoff and Perdue each try to paint rival as yes man or 'rubber stamp’.

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Throughout the hourlong Atlanta Press Club debate, Perdue depicted Ossoff as a liberal stalking horse who would say “anything to hide his radical socialist agenda.” The Democrat swung back, trying to frame Perdue as a relic of a corrupt status quo and a yes man to President Donald Trump.

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Rather than play the showdown safe, Perdue took on the role of a fiery underdog, peppering his challenger with attacks while repeatedly challenging moderator Donna Lowry on the debate’s rules to gain more speaking time.

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“All you’d do is be a rubber stamp for Chuck Schumer, who is locking this country down,” Perdue said in one testy exchange, invoking the top Democrat in the U.S. Senate. “It just seems to me that you’ll say anything to hide your radical socialist agenda.”

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The sharpest clash took place when Perdue dismissed Ossoff’s critiques of his pandemic response as little more than “Monday morning quarterbacking” and “idle chatter.”

“Senator, I’m astounded. It’s not idle chatter, senator. It’s 220,000 Americans killed by a virus,” said Ossoff, who runs a firm that makes investigative documentaries, adding: “And listen to you — schoolyard insults. Not a shred of empathy. Not a shred of personal responsibility.”

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Throughout the debate, Perdue declared that Ossoff supports the “defund the police” movement — an assertion that Ossoff has long denied — suggested he was in league with terrorists and falsely claimed the Democrat was endorsed by Communists.

And Ossoff accused Perdue of abusing his power and putting his loyalty to Trump ahead of Georgia, while also mocking his debate skills. Twice, he accused the senator of “reading from your notes that your staff has provided for you.”

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Both tried to use Libertarian Shane Hazel, a third-party candidate who is trailing badly in the polls, as a foil to make their points about their rivals. The military veteran joked that the hourlong debate garnered him more attention than his entire campaign, and he called himself a model of “principled consistency.”

“You’re not going to get it through these types of politicians,” said Hazel, a former GOP congressional candidate.

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No matter the question, whether it involved school waivers or Barrett’s appointment, Perdue pivoted to call Ossoff as a “radical socialist agenda” — a variation of a charge Perdue used at least a half-dozen times. Ossoff, meanwhile, raced to paint his opponent as hopelessly disconnected from the “real world where people are suffering."
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« Reply #595 on: October 13, 2020, 09:50:24 AM »

In first debate, Ossoff and Perdue each try to paint rival as yes man or 'rubber stamp’.

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Throughout the hourlong Atlanta Press Club debate, Perdue depicted Ossoff as a liberal stalking horse who would say “anything to hide his radical socialist agenda.” The Democrat swung back, trying to frame Perdue as a relic of a corrupt status quo and a yes man to President Donald Trump.

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Rather than play the showdown safe, Perdue took on the role of a fiery underdog, peppering his challenger with attacks while repeatedly challenging moderator Donna Lowry on the debate’s rules to gain more speaking time.

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“All you’d do is be a rubber stamp for Chuck Schumer, who is locking this country down,” Perdue said in one testy exchange, invoking the top Democrat in the U.S. Senate. “It just seems to me that you’ll say anything to hide your radical socialist agenda.”

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The sharpest clash took place when Perdue dismissed Ossoff’s critiques of his pandemic response as little more than “Monday morning quarterbacking” and “idle chatter.”

“Senator, I’m astounded. It’s not idle chatter, senator. It’s 220,000 Americans killed by a virus,” said Ossoff, who runs a firm that makes investigative documentaries, adding: “And listen to you — schoolyard insults. Not a shred of empathy. Not a shred of personal responsibility.”

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Throughout the debate, Perdue declared that Ossoff supports the “defund the police” movement — an assertion that Ossoff has long denied — suggested he was in league with terrorists and falsely claimed the Democrat was endorsed by Communists.

And Ossoff accused Perdue of abusing his power and putting his loyalty to Trump ahead of Georgia, while also mocking his debate skills. Twice, he accused the senator of “reading from your notes that your staff has provided for you.”

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Both tried to use Libertarian Shane Hazel, a third-party candidate who is trailing badly in the polls, as a foil to make their points about their rivals. The military veteran joked that the hourlong debate garnered him more attention than his entire campaign, and he called himself a model of “principled consistency.”

“You’re not going to get it through these types of politicians,” said Hazel, a former GOP congressional candidate.

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No matter the question, whether it involved school waivers or Barrett’s appointment, Perdue pivoted to call Ossoff as a “radical socialist agenda” — a variation of a charge Perdue used at least a half-dozen times. Ossoff, meanwhile, raced to paint his opponent as hopelessly disconnected from the “real world where people are suffering."

Perdue seems to have gone all in on a strategy of mobilizing rural white voters and Trumpists-a strategy that isn't going to help him with college-educated suburbanites and independents who have become increasingly wary of Republicans. Given what happened in 2018 between Brian Kemp and Stacey Abrams, this strategy could work, but it's a very risky one.
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« Reply #596 on: October 13, 2020, 11:55:49 AM »

Perdue's main chance is to ride in on Trump's coattails. If Trump doesn't take GA (which in recent weeks he hasn't put a lot of resources into), I doubt Perdue has a shot at reelection. A friend in GA (that is, 1 guy's opinion) said that yesterday's debate is going to help Ossoff by enough to make it a tossup, if not lean D. #TossupParty
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« Reply #597 on: October 15, 2020, 12:39:39 PM »

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« Reply #598 on: October 16, 2020, 05:31:02 AM »

Perdue raised $5.6M in Q3, has $8.2M in cash on hand.
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« Reply #599 on: October 16, 2020, 10:24:59 AM »

I have a feeling Perdue wins. I just don't see Ossof getting 50+
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