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« Reply #150 on: May 15, 2024, 03:42:40 PM »

And what will they name this new party? Because if it doesn't have "Conservative" in the name, then you can expect it won't do as well.

Maybe the BC Liberal Party, to get away from both Conservative and United brands?
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« Reply #151 on: May 15, 2024, 04:14:47 PM »

I find it amusing how they still use this dated 1970s language about saving "free enterprise" - as if the NDP under Horgan or Eby ever posed the slightest threat to free enterprise. Its not as if the BC NDP has workers of the world unite as its mission statement and wants to nationalize all heavy industry.
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« Reply #152 on: May 15, 2024, 04:23:59 PM »

I find it amusing how they still use this dated 1970s language about saving "free enterprise" - as if the NDP under Horgan or Eby ever posed the slightest threat to free enterprise. Its not as if the BC NDP has workers of the world unite as its mission statement and wants to nationalize all heavy industry.

There are definitely companies in the resource sector that are anti NDP and many in the construction sector aren't exactly happy with the NDP either.
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« Reply #153 on: May 15, 2024, 11:00:14 PM »

There are lots of companies in the resource sector who are not crazy about some federal Liberal policies and yet the Liberals are never labelled anti-free enterprise - in fact they are very much the party of big business
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« Reply #154 on: May 15, 2024, 11:05:32 PM »

I find it amusing how they still use this dated 1970s language about saving "free enterprise" - as if the NDP under Horgan or Eby ever posed the slightest threat to free enterprise. Its not as if the BC NDP has workers of the world unite as its mission statement and wants to nationalize all heavy industry.

I understood "free-enterprise coalition" to just be the colloquial term for the anti NDP alliance of Liberals and Tories in BC. I'm pretty sure it's just useful shorthand carried over from the NDP vs Social Credit era when the NDP did in many ways pose a threat to business. The BC Liberals/BC United even presented themselves as a "free enterprise coalition," so it can't imagine that exactly harmed the idea of continuing to use that phrasing.
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« Reply #155 on: May 16, 2024, 09:06:37 AM »

United Liberal-Conservative Free Enterprise Social Credit Coalition Party of British Columbia

Rolls off the tongue quite easily.
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« Reply #156 on: May 16, 2024, 09:21:38 AM »

I find it amusing how they still use this dated 1970s language about saving "free enterprise" - as if the NDP under Horgan or Eby ever posed the slightest threat to free enterprise. Its not as if the BC NDP has workers of the world unite as its mission statement and wants to nationalize all heavy industry.

I understood "free-enterprise coalition" to just be the colloquial term for the anti NDP alliance of Liberals and Tories in BC. I'm pretty sure it's just useful shorthand carried over from the NDP vs Social Credit era when the NDP did in many ways pose a threat to business. The BC Liberals/BC United even presented themselves as a "free enterprise coalition," so it can't imagine that exactly harmed the idea of continuing to use that phrasing.

I'm not saying that "free enterprise" terminology necessarily harms anyone - its just so dated and vestigial. At one time all the wealthy and educated people from the business elites voted en masse for which ever party was anti-NDP - and the NDP got massive support from people with lower incomes. Like much of the western world - the political coalitions have changed enormously. The BC NDP now wins some of the highest income ridings and tends to do well among high income highly educated people many of whom work in business in the private sector...the issues that separate the NDP from the parties on the right are no longer things like nationalizing entire industries - its now more cultural issues and environmental issues 
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« Reply #157 on: May 16, 2024, 01:41:13 PM »
« Edited: May 16, 2024, 02:43:11 PM by Benjamin Frank 2.0 »

There are lots of companies in the resource sector who are not crazy about some federal Liberal policies and yet the Liberals are never labelled anti-free enterprise - in fact they are very much the party of big business

Justin Trudeau has definitely been labelled an anti-free enterprise 'socialist' and they are the party of 'Eastern Establishment' big business but opposed by the Western Resource big business (I wonder who J.D Irving in New Brunswick supports.)
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