DC Unrest Megathread

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Every single Trump supporter:

Fuzzy Bear, Sanchez, even sensible folks like Buzz.

This is your fault.  You are to blame.

A thousand times this. There is no such thing as a decent Trump supporter and there hasn't been for a long time. They are deplorable scum. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

That's not how this works.

It starts from the top. It starts with a man so deluded that he can't accept defeat, and is willing to propagate dangerous lies to people who know no better than to believe because they've been conditioned to do so.

Everyone had their own reasons for supporting Trump, including myself once upon a time, but the hardcore cultists have been brainwashed. Day in and day out, by media echo chambers, by their elected officials casting doubt on an election outcome and by every single person of influence who cast aside logic and reason to curry favor with people who have been suckered by this cult of personality.

Some of them, I assume, are bad people. But most of them are hopelessly, sadly, deluded by a president who has taught them to redefine reality by his warped standards.

Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.

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This is something you expect to describe a third-world banana republic.

https://twitter.com/FP_Champagne/status/1346937102102126594

"following developments closely" is diplomatspeak for "yeah, that place is f*****"

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IIRC, the most recent time an angry mob invaded a national legislature was in 2017 in Macedonia, when far-right groups violently entered the building in response to election of an ethnic Albanian as speaker.

So congratulations, oldest democracy in the world, today you're as democratic as a small, forgettable ex-Yugo country.

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IIRC, the most recent time an angry mob invaded a national legislature was in 2017 in Macedonia, when far-right groups violently entered the building in response to election of an ethnic Albanian as speaker.

So congratulations, oldest democracy in the world, today you're as democratic as a small, forgettable ex-Yugo country.

Wasn't the Armenian parliament invaded after the country surrendered during their recent war?

Maybe? I googled it and didn't find anything. Are you thinking of this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_parliament_shooting

In any case, losing a war due to having a joke of an army thanks to you country being led by self-serving morons is hell of a more justification for invading your parliament than "waaaa my guy lost".

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What Biden needs to do the second he comes into office:

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It's a big if, but if Republicans withdraw their objections after this - let's be honest here - terrorist attack, Trump's encouragement of this kind of violence will have cost him whatever little benefit for his future carreer he could've gotten out of the whole kabuki of objections.

Fantastic job, Donald.

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The title of the thread says 4 dead- who are the other 3?

Morbidly obese Trumpers who had medical issues from what I've heard.

Like heart attacks or something?

As far as I can suss out: one fell off the capitol steps, one got flashbanged and had a heart attack, and one accidentally tased himself and had a heart attack.

Accidentally tasing yourself and having a heart attack is certainly an interesting way to go out.

Getting elected by a coalition of inbred cretins and then relying on them to physically fight for you may present certain... problems.

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Anyway, the boyfriend question is a muscle-bound dope. Works out a time works as a one employee Landscaping Company. We hired him for the last couple years to mow our grass and do the leaves. What can I say, I'm lazy when it comes to yard work. We've known also that wow she is a bit of a racist, this knucklehead is a first-rate trumpist. I mean the whole nine yards with ignorant ass Facebook posts out the Wazoo, had a bunch of Trump Flags posted on his pickup truck where he drove to one of the Trump truck rallies, Etc. Also some really borderline racist s*** about Floyd George talk about how now some guy is going to play the race card after the guy was killed.

 Anyway, we've rolled our eyes and decided to tolerate it. Big world, lots of views. And then the bastard posts two things on Facebook. First some celebratory meme about Patriot storm in the US Capitol. In the second one was, I kid you not, January 6th 2021, death of America. The bastard was actually celebrating the death of America.

In hindsight, the reaction to BLM protests was a sieve to sort out those who went quite literally clinically insane after Trump lost.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelGarofola/status/1347084222561882113

Kinda missing the point. The four people who died in Benghazi weren't terrorists. Besides, of the four Capitol assailants, two died from heart attacks (thank you, cholesterol-filled American cuisine, you guardian of democracy!), one fell off the stairs and only one was acually killed - by security forces while she was committing a terrorist attack.

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Capitol police has charged the following 14 people in relation with yesterday's events:


Unlawful Entry:
Leonard Guthrie, Cape May, N.J.
John Anderson, St. Augustine, Fla.
Matthew Council, Riverview, Fla.
Bradley Ruskelas, Inverness, Ill.
Michael Curzio, Summerfield, Fla
Cindy Fitchett, Cobbs Creek, Va.
Terry Brown, Myerstown, Pa.
Douglas Sweet, Hudgins, Va.
Thomas Gallagher, Bridgewater, N.H.
Zandra Sixkiller-Cramer, Glenwood, Md.

Assaulting a Police Officer, Unlawful Entry, Resisting Arrest:
Mark Leffingerwell, No fixed address

CPWL & Unregistered ammunition:
Grant Moore, Buford, Ga.

CPWL, Unregistered Firearm, Unregistered Ammunition:
Lonnie Zoffman, Falkville, Al.

Assaulting a Police Officer:
David Blair, Clarksburg, Md.

Lots of Florida Men in this list.

Three? 

It's a state of mind.

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This is speech is gonna be enough for Republicans. Safe to say there will be no invoking of 25th after this.

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MAGA جهاد

https://twitter.com/Fritschner/status/1347361072513232898

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Meanwhile half of the Republican Party approves of the riots, and their conspiracy theory was validated by a majority of the Republican House caucus just hours after the attack!

To be fair, pretty much every Republican has condemned the violence, just as how establishment Dems condemned BLM riots.

147 Republicans voted to object to the election based on the president's lies. They know his claims are and have always been completely fabricated and they've decided perpetuating the lies is worth more to them than defending and uniting the country. Those lies triggered the violence by Trump's supporters. He's radicalized them with lies that their country is being stolen from them, their culture is being stolen from them, their election is being stolen from them.

The lies are behind the violence and unless the Republican Party comes out and apologizes to the nation for breeding terrorism in the gullible to get votes, they're 100% still the pieces of crap to blame.

Saying "I still think I won but don't hurt people" with no affect isn't worth a bucket of snake piss.

But it’s different from actually supporting the violence, which I’ve seen no Republican do so far.

An Al Qaeda recruiter who never leaves camp or hurts someone directly is still to blame. You don't get to spend years radicalizing people and suddenly be outraged they're radicalized and insane. They need to stop the lying or they're knowingly encouraging more of this. 147 of them voted with hopes of maintaining this madness to further their own ambitions. They're all going to hell when they die.

I don’t think they actually wanted to incite violence though.

WHAT DID THEY THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?

You spend months telling people this election is the "last chance to save the country" and if Biden wins we'll be a socialist tyrannical dictatorship, then he wins and you say "THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN! WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!"

How do you think people are going to react to that?!

Idiocy =/ condoning violence.

Sufficiently advanced idiocy is indistinguishable from malice.

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Is it just me, or is the very real possibility that Trump's crimes go well beyond incitement being criminally ignored? European security officials are suspecting that federal law enforcement was directed to enable or assist the attempt coup: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-capitol-police-2021-1

Certainly would explain some of the gross misconduct of Capitol Police, and Trump's refusal to activate the National Guard.

I've believed this since the revelation that Trump had blocked the DC National Guard from being deployed. The media has not really gone at the "Trump tried to overthrow the government" angle, and I agree with you, that's a big disservice.

I wonder what the plan was. To storm the Capitol, make the members of Congress invalidate electoral votes from seven contested states, force them to vote for President in the House of Representatives and elect Trump.

It's an interesting and/or horrifying hypothetical to think what would happen if they were organized and competent enough to actually take the Congress hostage and force them to do that. IMO what would most likely happen would be that, independently from any civilian orders (or perhaps on orders from Pence once the 25th has been invoked), Joint Chiefs would go full Yeltsin 1993 and send in the tanks. I assume they would be a little less trigger-happy with shelling the Capitol, though.