DC Unrest Megathread
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 08, 2024, 07:35:25 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  DC Unrest Megathread
« previous next »
Pages: 1 ... 27 28 29 30 31 [32] 33 34 35 36 37 ... 197
Author Topic: DC Unrest Megathread  (Read 270106 times)
Suburbia
bronz4141
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,666
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #775 on: January 06, 2021, 05:04:11 PM »

Anybody else think Cruz and Hawley overextended themselves in a Macarthyesque way? They can't come back from this.

Hawley wins reelection in MO, Cruz loses to Beto in 2024
Logged
2952-0-0
exnaderite
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,221


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #776 on: January 06, 2021, 05:04:35 PM »

This is something you expect to describe a third-world banana republic.

Logged
It’s so Joever
Forumlurker161
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,013


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #777 on: January 06, 2021, 05:04:51 PM »

Also, all the talking heads on CNN calling this a literal "insurrection" will get what they're asking for.  If you go too far in demonizing these protesters/rioters, then you will invariably create the very demons you're supposedly petrified by. 

Law enforcement has learned to deescalate situations for the sake of public safety (which appears to be what's going on at the moment); I only wish our news media had the same sense of civic responsibility. 

The true enemy of the people.  100%
This is deranged, even for you. You are looking at this and what you are seeing is protesters being DEMONIZED? WTF man? Get a grip.

Literally the only thing that makes this any different than BLM riots/protesters is that the building is big and white with a pretty dome and columns and Yasss Kween Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters work there.  Occupying and damaging a police precinct building is literally no different that what is going on today.  Police power, the electoral college and Congress are all equally-legitimate manifestations of our civil government.  Its the same s[inks]t, yet the level of vitriol and pearl clutching going on are oceans apart. 
So...a police station and the US Capitol are the same thing now?
Excellent, time to go to my new local US capitol building to propose some new legislation for this country.
Logged
Inmate Trump
GWBFan
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,079


Political Matrix
E: -4.39, S: -7.30

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #778 on: January 06, 2021, 05:04:54 PM »

Let this be a lesson to anyone who couldn’t stomach voting for Hillary.
Logged
It's Perro Sanxe wot won it
Mimoha
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 832
Spain


Political Matrix
E: -4.65, S: -5.22

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #779 on: January 06, 2021, 05:05:14 PM »

Also, all the talking heads on CNN calling this a literal "insurrection" will get what they're asking for.  If you go too far in demonizing these protesters/rioters, then you will invariably create the very demons you're supposedly petrified by.  

Law enforcement has learned to deescalate situations for the sake of public safety (which appears to be what's going on at the moment); I only wish our news media had the same sense of civic responsibility.  

The true enemy of the people.  100%
This is deranged, even for you. You are looking at this and what you are seeing is protesters being DEMONIZED? WTF man? Get a grip.

Literally the only thing that makes this any different than BLM riots/protesters is that the building is big and white with a pretty dome and columns and Yasss Kween Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters work there.  Occupying and damaging a police precinct building is literally no different that what is going on today.  Police power, the electoral college and Congress are all equally-legitimate manifestations of our civil government.  Its the same s[inks]t, yet the level of vitriol and pearl clutching going on are oceans apart.  

Pretty sad that the only argument you have to justify this madness is lame attempts at creating false equivalencies.
Logged
Chips
Those Chips
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,209
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #780 on: January 06, 2021, 05:05:22 PM »

Also I recant my prior statements of believing we shouldn’t charge Trump so we can move on as a nation .


After this Trump should be charged of crimes

This, 100%
Logged
ultraviolet
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,951
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.71, S: -3.22

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #781 on: January 06, 2021, 05:05:41 PM »


Really calling out all of Atlas Tongue
Logged
Holy Unifying Centrist
DTC
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,209


Political Matrix
E: 9.53, S: 10.54

WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #782 on: January 06, 2021, 05:05:47 PM »

Also, all the talking heads on CNN calling this a literal "insurrection" will get what they're asking for.  If you go too far in demonizing these protesters/rioters, then you will invariably create the very demons you're supposedly petrified by.  

Law enforcement has learned to deescalate situations for the sake of public safety (which appears to be what's going on at the moment); I only wish our news media had the same sense of civic responsibility.  

The true enemy of the people.  100%
This is deranged, even for you. You are looking at this and what you are seeing is protesters being DEMONIZED? WTF man? Get a grip.

Literally the only thing that makes this any different than BLM riots/protesters is that the building is big and white with a pretty dome and columns and Yasss Kween Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters work there.  Occupying and damaging a police precinct building is literally no different that what is going on today.  Police power, the electoral college and Congress are all equally-legitimate manifestations of our civil government.  Its the same s[inks]t, yet the level of vitriol and pearl clutching going on are oceans apart.  


The capital of the United States is the most important physical symbol of the country by far.
Logged
Alben Barkley
KYWildman
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,284
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.97, S: -5.74

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #783 on: January 06, 2021, 05:05:50 PM »

It’s actually kinda cathartic to see the tear gas and flashbangs come out now.
Logged
Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️
The Impartial Spectator
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,882


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #784 on: January 06, 2021, 05:06:16 PM »

How does this effect the GOP’s chances of winning in the future?

Damn, and I was just about to praise this board for not engaging in sterile elections talk that seem comparatively meaningless in light of this event.

At least we haven't gotten much "Today won't matter, Dems are still gonna have a horrible 2022" posts

In the same way that 9/11 broke the normal midterm dynamics in 2022, 1/6/2021 (and potential events subsequently) could have a similar effect.

1/6/2021 will be remembered in the same breath as days like 9/11/2001 and 11/7/1941. And, perhaps most importantly of all, 4/12/1861.
Logged
Gass3268
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,536
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #785 on: January 06, 2021, 05:06:20 PM »

Logged
Frodo
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 24,602
United States


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #786 on: January 06, 2021, 05:06:25 PM »

These Trumpsters have no idea how much their antics are going to backfire on them...  
Logged
Middle-aged Europe
Old Europe
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,237
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #787 on: January 06, 2021, 05:06:36 PM »

Logged
Dr Oz Lost Party!
PittsburghSteel
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,016
United States


P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #788 on: January 06, 2021, 05:06:52 PM »

There's video of the Capitol Hill police opening the gates for the terrorists...

Logged
Estrella
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,012
Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #789 on: January 06, 2021, 05:07:00 PM »

This is something you expect to describe a third-world banana republic.



"following developments closely" is diplomatspeak for "yeah, that place is f*****"
Logged
urutzizu
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 587
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #790 on: January 06, 2021, 05:07:05 PM »

Reactions among Americas allies so far

Spain:
https://twitter.com/sanchezcastejon/status/1346922429705289728
9:51 PM
UK:
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1346926138057220103
10:06 PM (Eurotime)
Ireland:
https://twitter.com/MichealMartinTD/status/1346928544715206658
10:16 PM
Netherlands:
https://twitter.com/MinPres/status/1346933459785314305
10:35 PM
Belgium
https://twitter.com/alexanderdecroo/status/1346936860640206851
Canada
https://twitter.com/FP_Champagne/status/1346937102102126594
10:50 PM
Italia:
https://twitter.com/GiuseppeConteIT/status/1346937980955619329
10:53 PM

Reactions tend to get more strongly-worded and critical of Trump as time passes. Even Johnson and Conte with good personal relationships with Trump clearly angry.
Logged
Pessimistic Antineutrino
Pessimistic Antineutrino
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,896
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #791 on: January 06, 2021, 05:07:25 PM »

A thousand times this. There is no such thing as a decent Trump supporter and there hasn't been for a long time. They are deplorable scum. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

That's not how this works.

It starts from the top. It starts with a man so deluded that he can't accept defeat, and is willing to propagate dangerous lies to people who know no better than to believe because they've been conditioned to do so.

Everyone had their own reasons for supporting Trump, including myself once upon a time, but the hardcore cultists have been brainwashed. Day in and day out, by media echo chambers, by their elected officials casting doubt on an election outcome and by every single person of influence who cast aside logic and reason to curry favor with people who have been suckered by this cult of personality.

Some of them, I assume, are bad people. But most of them are hopelessly, sadly, deluded by a president who has taught them to redefine reality by his warped standards.

This is the GOP's fault. This is OANN's fault. But to blame every person who cast a vote for Trump is, (and I HATE using this comparison because it's lazy), tantamount to disparaging the character of every person who supported Hitler because they were deluded to believe he was the right thing for their country.

Or, you know, we could actually hold people accountable for their own actions. It isn't hard to use basic critical thinking skills.

You know--personal responsibility and all that.

On a personal level, you are right. And every single one of these protestors should be tried for treason.

But on a grander scale, considering the behavior of a population over the course of years, it starts at the top. Little lies become acceptable, and they add up to big lies. When you trust a president, or a news source, basic critical thinking goes out the window, because why would you not trust the same people you've trusted for years? The problem is, they don't even realize it. Its like the old adage about boiling frogs in water. How many of these deranged crazies were/are normal, reasonable people before this?
Logged
Chips
Those Chips
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,209
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #792 on: January 06, 2021, 05:07:31 PM »

You know what? Screw the GOP. Screw it until it gets it's act together.

I'm now proud to be part of the resistance that brought the GOP from total power to a sudden lack of it!

No offence to good Republicans on here.
Logged
MasterJedi
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 23,680
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #793 on: January 06, 2021, 05:07:36 PM »

Perfect timing, NYT declares Ossoff the winner. Best time to get news that Republican control is finished.
Logged
RINO Tom
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,041
United States


Political Matrix
E: 2.45, S: -0.52

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #794 on: January 06, 2021, 05:07:44 PM »

Probably a naïve hope, but I really hope a slew of Republicans come forward and denounce this on a MUCH deeper level than the violence.  It HAS to be recognized that Donald Trump, in a position of almost unlimited power and influence, has literally encouraged this type of despicable behavior.  If I'm a Republican politician, I'm frankly no longer worried about the "Trumpist base" primarying me or whatever.  This is beyond the pale.  If you are worried about having to explain why you condemned THIS of all things in 2-4 years, you're insane.
Logged
Alben Barkley
KYWildman
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,284
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.97, S: -5.74

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #795 on: January 06, 2021, 05:07:48 PM »

Let this be a lesson to anyone who couldn’t stomach voting for Hillary.

I hope that wonderful woman is watching all this and “cackling.”

No one will be more vindicated by history than her.
Logged
VAR
VARepublican
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,753
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #796 on: January 06, 2021, 05:07:57 PM »

Also, all the talking heads on CNN calling this a literal "insurrection" will get what they're asking for.  If you go too far in demonizing these protesters/rioters, then you will invariably create the very demons you're supposedly petrified by. 

Law enforcement has learned to deescalate situations for the sake of public safety (which appears to be what's going on at the moment); I only wish our news media had the same sense of civic responsibility. 

The true enemy of the people.  100%
This is deranged, even for you. You are looking at this and what you are seeing is protesters being DEMONIZED? WTF man? Get a grip.

Literally the only thing that makes this any different than BLM riots/protesters is that the building is big and white with a pretty dome and columns and Yasss Kween Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters work there.  Occupying and damaging a police precinct building is literally no different that what is going on today.  Police power, the electoral college and Congress are all equally-legitimate manifestations of our civil government.  Its the same s[inks]t, yet the level of vitriol and pearl clutching going on are oceans apart. 

Why are you not muted from this board yet? Mods? Please?

He'll be muted if you get an avatar - go to "profile" then to "Forum Profile Information" and select an avatar.
Logged
Crumpets
Thinking Crumpets Crumpet
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,753
United States


Political Matrix
E: -4.06, S: -6.52

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #797 on: January 06, 2021, 05:07:58 PM »

People are starting to get off work in DC. I imagine as night falls we might start to get more counter-protests.
Logged
Middle-aged Europe
Old Europe
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,237
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #798 on: January 06, 2021, 05:08:09 PM »

Logged
Starry Eyed Jagaloon
Blairite
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,835
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #799 on: January 06, 2021, 05:08:33 PM »

How many of these deranged crazies were/are normal, reasonable people before this?

Honestly, I have no idea.
Logged
Pages: 1 ... 27 28 29 30 31 [32] 33 34 35 36 37 ... 197  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.06 seconds with 12 queries.