Greece General Discussion

[Nhoj]

New Democracy - which was completely humiliated after the failure of the Nai campaign, which they threw a lot of their resources, infrastructure and general machinery at - may have a female leader of its own. Dora Bakoyanni, a member of the liberal wing (you might remember her leading one of the million tiny liberal parties that splintered off ND at the start of the crisis) apparently wants the job - she was the runner-up when Samaras (a more traditional rightist) was chosen.

Notably the daughter of Konstantinos Mitsotakis prime minister in the early 90s, who was toppled by non other than Samaras! who formed his own party and withdrew support over Mitsotakis not taking a hardline on the whole Macedonia thing

[RogueBeaver]

Tsipras wants a snap election as soon as agreement is reached on the third bailout. Mulling either Sept. 13 or 20.

[RogueBeaver]

ECB adds 900M of ELA.

[RogueBeaver]

Guardian reporting of rumours in Athens that Left Platform might form a breakaway party, which Tsipras welcomes.

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My dream election of Tsipras (pro bailout coalition) vs Varoufakis (anti bailout coalition) is coming closer to reality

[politicus]

Tsipras wants a snap election as soon as agreement is reached on the third bailout. Mulling either Sept. 13 or 20.

This seems to originate from German media bureau MNI citing an anonymous source.

The ND caretaker leader wants new leader elected by a primary on August 30. Will announce the procedure on Friday - speculation Samaras might try a comeback..

http://www.ekathimerini.com/199816/article/ekathimerini/news/meimarakis-set-to-propose-election-of-new-nd-chief

[RogueBeaver]

WSJ also saying a SYRIZA schism is expected, though not till the party's national congress this fall. Suggesting a snap election would be later in the fall.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Tsipras wants a snap election as soon as agreement is reached on the third bailout. Mulling either Sept. 13 or 20.

This seems to originate from German media bureau MNI citing an anonymous source.

The ND caretaker leader wants new leader elected by a primary on August 30. Will announce the procedure on Friday - speculation Samaras might try a comeback..

http://www.ekathimerini.com/199816/article/ekathimerini/news/meimarakis-set-to-propose-election-of-new-nd-chief

Says who? Samaras is out for good and won't be missed by anyone.

Tsipras wants a snap election as soon as agreement is reached on the third bailout. Mulling either Sept. 13 or 20.

Doubtful. The Troika will probably dissuade Tsipras from that and tell him to wait till October, after the first assessment of how the program goes.

[politicus]

Tsipras wants a snap election as soon as agreement is reached on the third bailout. Mulling either Sept. 13 or 20.

This seems to originate from German media bureau MNI citing an anonymous source.

The ND caretaker leader wants new leader elected by a primary on August 30. Will announce the procedure on Friday - speculation Samaras might try a comeback..

http://www.ekathimerini.com/199816/article/ekathimerini/news/meimarakis-set-to-propose-election-of-new-nd-chief

Says who? Samaras is out for good and won't be missed by anyone.

Tsipras wants a snap election as soon as agreement is reached on the third bailout. Mulling either Sept. 13 or 20.

Doubtful. The Troika will probably dissuade Tsipras from that and tell him to wait till October, after the first assessment of how the program goes.

The artice doesn't say who - it just refers to "reports on Wednesday."(see the link)

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Oh hey Lyndon, thought you'd vanished, or got sent to a gulag or something. How's your area of Greece holding up?

[RogueBeaver]

Parliament just enacted the next batch of reforms. 4 of last week's defectors voted with the government.

[Boston Bread]

Looking at the recent polls, at the very least I'm glad the Greek people have yet to lose their sanity, based on the GD/ANEL/KKE numbers.

[ag]

Looking at the recent polls, at the very least I'm glad the Greek people have yet to lose their sanity, based on the GD/ANEL/KKE numbers.

I, actually, quite admire the Greeks. They are dealing with the situation better than I would have expected.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Oh hey Lyndon, thought you'd vanished, or got sent to a gulag or something. How's your area of Greece holding up?

I wish I could just vanish. These two weeks, from the announcement of the referendum to the voting of the first austerity package, were a living hell for me and everyone else who wants our country to stay in the EU and doesn't want it to become Hoxha's Albania.
There were days when I was literally paralyzed with fear.  

[Retrumplican]

Looking at the recent polls, at the very least I'm glad the Greek people have yet to lose their sanity, based on the GD/ANEL/KKE numbers.

I, actually, quite admire the Greeks. They are dealing with the situation better than I would have expected.

I am surprised that the Golden Dawn hasn't picked up more support than they have. If this were happening in a country with self respect, like Germany or the US, they would be at least up in the 20s by this point, and would be taken seriously like the National Front in France and like Donald Trump in the US.

[politicus]

Looking at the recent polls, at the very least I'm glad the Greek people have yet to lose their sanity, based on the GD/ANEL/KKE numbers.

I, actually, quite admire the Greeks. They are dealing with the situation better than I would have expected.

I am surprised that the Golden Dawn hasn't picked up more support than they have. If this were happening in a country with self respect, like Germany or the US, they would be at least up in the 20s by this point, and would be taken seriously like the National Front in France and like Donald Trump in the US.

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Looking at the recent polls, at the very least I'm glad the Greek people have yet to lose their sanity, based on the GD/ANEL/KKE numbers.

I, actually, quite admire the Greeks. They are dealing with the situation better than I would have expected.

I am surprised that the Golden Dawn hasn't picked up more support than they have. If this were happening in a country with self respect, like Germany or the US, they would be at least up in the 20s by this point, and would be taken seriously like the National Front in France and like Donald Trump in the US.

Donald Trump is no Nazi. Fascist, maybe.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Looking at the recent polls, at the very least I'm glad the Greek people have yet to lose their sanity, based on the GD/ANEL/KKE numbers.

I, actually, quite admire the Greeks. They are dealing with the situation better than I would have expected.

I am surprised that the Golden Dawn hasn't picked up more support than they have. If this were happening in a country with self respect, like Germany or the US, they would be at least up in the 20s by this point, and would be taken seriously like the National Front in France and like Donald Trump in the US.

Lol @ the idea Donald Trump is taken seriously.

[Retrumplican]

Donald Trump is no Nazi. Fascist, maybe.

That's a difference of degree, not of kind. Mussolini was a "fascist," but was he really that different from Hitler?

Anyway, if Trump were in charge of Greece, one can imagine what he would have told those IMF prostitutes after getting that OXI.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Looking at the recent polls, at the very least I'm glad the Greek people have yet to lose their sanity, based on the GD/ANEL/KKE numbers.

I, actually, quite admire the Greeks. They are dealing with the situation better than I would have expected.

I am surprised that the Golden Dawn hasn't picked up more support than they have. If this were happening in a country with self respect, like Germany or the US, they would be at least up in the 20s by this point, and would be taken seriously like the National Front in France and like Donald Trump in the US.

Maybe the fact that they are unapologetic neo-Nazis and the fact that their leadership is under trial for being a criminal organization that resorted to blackmail and murder has something to do with their limited success.

[Retrumplican]

Lol @ the idea Donald Trump is taken seriously.

Just because you don't like someone, or some party, doesn't mean that they are not a significant political factor if they are winning support. If they are winning support, there is probably a reason for that.

But anyway, we should be talking about Greece, not Trump.

People in Greece seem to be like abused puppies, who finally got up the courage to run away from home, but as soon as they get a block away start to get hungry, and come crawling back to their masters. Sad.

[Retrumplican]

Maybe the fact that they are unapologetic neo-Nazis and the fact that their leadership is under trial for being a criminal organization that resorted to blackmail and murder has something to do with their limited success.

No doubt that is the explanation. However, one would suspect that the Greek people would get over that more quickly, given the severity of the economic crisis.

I guess it probably won't start happening until a few months or a year from now, when the current program is fully implemented, when Greece misses its primary surplus targets, when automatic further cuts go into effect, and when unemployment reaches about 40% or so.

[RogueBeaver]

ND is keeping its interim leader till spring, per Grauniad.

[RogueBeaver]

So Left Platform's plan was to forcibly seize the central bank and mint, arrest the governor in preparation to refloat the drachma, and ask Putin for cash.

[politicus]

So Left Platform's plan was to forcibly seize the central bank and mint, arrest the governor in preparation to refloat the drachma, and ask Putin for cash.

Behind a paywall. You could quote a bit more without violating copyright.