Quinnipiac national poll: D: Clinton 60% Sanders 30%; R: Trump 27% Rubio 17% (user search)
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Mr. Morden
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« on: December 02, 2015, 06:01:52 AM »
« edited: December 02, 2015, 06:04:11 AM by Mr. Morden »

Quinnipiac national poll, conducted Nov. 23-30:

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2307

Dems

Clinton 60%
Sanders 30%
O’Malley 2%

GOP

Trump 27%
Rubio 17%
Carson 16%
Cruz 16%
Bush 5%
Fiorina 3%
Christie 2%
Kasich 2%
Paul 2%
Huckabee 1%
Gilmore, Graham, Pataki, Santorum 0%
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2015, 06:14:14 AM »

Who leads among…?
white born again Evangelicals: Cruz/Trump tie
very conservative: Cruz
somewhat conservative: Rubio
moderate: Trump
most important issue = economy: Trump
most important issue = terrorism: Trump
most important issue = foreign policy: Rubio

Are there any candidates who you would definitely *NOT* vote for? (multiple response allowed, so adds up to more than 100%)

Trump 26%
Bush 21%
Christie 13%
Kasich 13%
Paul 13%
Fiorina 11%
Graham 11%
Pataki 11%
Carson 10%
Gilmore 9%
Huckabee 9%
Santorum 9%
Cruz 6%
Rubio 5%
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2015, 06:20:49 AM »

fav/unfav % among own party…

Dems

Clinton 85/11% for +74%
Sanders 68/7% for +61%

GOP

Rubio 66/8% for +58%
Cruz 65/9% for +56%
Carson 67/13% for +54%
Huckabee 56/18% for +38%
Trump 64/27% for +37%
Fiorina 49/17% for +32%
Bush 53/34% for +19%
Christie 43/31% for +12%
Kasich 27/20% for +7%
Paul 32/36% for -4%

most important issue for Dems:

economy/jobs 43%
foreign policy 12%
health care 11%
terrorism 8%
climate change 8%
immigration 4%
federal deficit 3%
gun policy 3%
race relations 2%
abortion 2%

most important issue for GOP:

economy/jobs 26%
terrorism 24%
foreign policy 17%
immigration 8%
federal deficit 8%
gun policy 4%
health care 3%
abortion 3%
taxes 3%
climate change 0%
race relations 0%
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2015, 06:29:21 AM »


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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2015, 07:30:44 AM »

Rubio edges ahead of Carson for 2nd place in the HuffPo trendline:


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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2015, 08:26:32 AM »

B-b-b-but I thought all the Trump supporters were going to magically stop supporting him and vote for a "serious" candidate?? Nate Silver told me so!!

I don't think so.  I think what Silver (and others, including me) have said is that they don't necessarily expect Trump to drop that much, because he doesn't need to drop that much in order to lose.  27% isn't going to win Trump the nomination.

In any case, Silver has been saying for a long time (including, again, today:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/big-phony-and-loser-nate-silver-cant-even-see-donald-trump-is-a-winner-what-a-joke/ ) that someone polling at ~25-30% or whatever isn't a strong indication that they're going to win the nomination, because polling this far out is still only so predictive.  I wouldn't read a poll with 46% of a candidate's supporters claiming that they're not going to change their minds as rock solid.
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2015, 10:24:26 PM »

The idea that Trump is stuck at 27% or whatever is again just subjective wishful thinking. There's no evidence in polling that this is his ceiling.

Huh?  Sure, he *could* end up getting a larger share of the vote than he currently polls, but Silver et al. are predicting that he won’t.  Not sure how that squares with what you were talking about in your earlier post, suggesting that “Nate Silver told me” that “all the Trump supporters were going to magically stop supporting him“.  Where does Silver say that *current* Trump supporters are going to defect away from him en masse?  As far as I can recall, he’s said that he can see Trump staying somewhere in the 20% range or whatever during the primaries, but not winning the nomination.

Back in August, for example, Silver explicitly says that while he thinks Trump is going to lose, he’s agnostic about how it happens, and in what stage of the game victory slips away from him:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trumps-six-stages-of-doom/

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Nothing that’s happening in the polls right now is contradicting that assessment from months ago.  (Nor confirming it.  It’s still early!)
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